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Contents 1 =Main Page 1.1 Kingdom Quest 1.2 Outspark Staff and ranks 1.3 Skill Tables 1.4 Questions/Random Inquiries 1.5 Titles for limited-resource articles 1.6 Encyclopaedic style 1.7 Class pages 1.8 Repeated mob location

=Main Page

I was wondering if we should add statistics and leveling to the to the character section on the main page cause we already have guide and skills.

Joshbl56 00:35, 15 July 2009 (CDT)

Kingdom Quest

I was wondering if we could add some stuff from this[1] to the guide

Joshbl56 00:48, 15 July 2009 (CDT)

Outspark Staff and ranks

I have submitted a few whole pages explaining the various types of Staff, Including: GM's, CL's, And CSR's. It's not much, But it gives the reader a basic idea of what each title does, And who to go to for any specific questions or info.

If i did wrong, let me know.

-Senyx

I'm not really the one to go to to ask whether stuff is right or not, that's more Gandalfa's/Triumph's/Icy's forte :3

A basic overview of Outspark would be nice but I also saw Icy's message on your talk-page about it's notability. If the pages are cleared to stay around, you might want to link the definitions to the existing ones in the Glossary. Regards lvramire

Skill Tables

I will input all the data in the skill tables that have already been updated to the new 'Mage' format. (eg - I have already completed/will soon complete all the missing-values in the Archer skill-section that have already been formatted) I however do not know enough to alter the existing tables.

You might want to change your to-do list to say Format Cleric/Fighter/Mage character-guides like Archers instead of Format Cleric/Archer/Mage character-guides like Archers Joshbl56 16:48, 3 March 2009 (CST)

Missed that xD Thanks. Lvramire 22:45, 3 March 2009 (CST)

Questions/Random Inquiries

- Monsters page: Overview - As of right now this is not a standard. We like the idea but as you say it will be a pain to get up and running fully. Our monster pages still need a log of work and due to that we are backing off of this idea and leading onto the idea of just getting the information in the page so we can later come back to them for more detailed touch ups like this. If you want to do it go ahead we do like the idea and plan to have something like that later on. Just keep the information there more like an encyclopedia instead of a short story. Gandalfa82 19:51, 8 March 2009 (CDT)

- The Guild's page has nothing linking to it. Dunno who to ask about that. It might get completed a little faster if more people could easily see it and add to it, though it seems relatively complete. I'm not sure about this, I'll see if I can get a link to it on the main page. Gandalfa82 19:51, 8 March 2009 (CDT)

- Current Events Page is updated as Major changes are made. Most of the stuff Icy, Triumph, or Myself are working on will not be added to the Current Events page because we are working on them and will overwrite the whole page when we are done. That page is used to direct others to give them a place to start if they wish to help out with the Wiki. Gandalfa82 19:51, 8 March 2009 (CDT)

- Other questions have been answered by Icy, if the question was not answered good enough for you then please rewrite it on my talk page and I will get you a more clear answer. Gandalfa82 19:51, 8 March 2009 (CDT)

- If you need anything else feel free to let me know :) Gandalfa82 19:51, 8 March 2009 (CDT)

- Thanks for the comment about the buffs and debuffs page. Its still a work in progress. If you ever need anything like doing the monster overviews I'll gladly help just tell me what and when. Keep it up Cookies12100

Titles for limited-resource articles

Sure thing, I appreciate being so welcomed to help, However, Is there any place where i can get the .Jpg format of the monster pictures? It'd help to have the pictures of the monsters in some of the more bare articles.

      Well i suppose i can work with it, But this might call for some actual screenies, Luckily
      I know some really good photoshoppers that can spruce the images up enough for Wiki use.

Encyclopaedic style

User:Icy#Encyclopaedic style Icy 11:36, 24 March 2009 (CDT)

Class pages

Here's my thought on the structure:

--+ [[Class]]
  |-- Link to gameplay guide including skill recommendations //top of the pages links
  |-- Link to skills data //top of the page links
  |-- Link to leveling suggestions //top of the page links
  |-- Description, general information on the class
  |-- Character stats on this page itself [big neat table, data will be collected by a form some time later]
  |-- See also
--+ [[Gameplay Guide]]
  |-- Link to class main page, skills data and leveling suggestings //top of page links
  |-+ Character building
    |-- Stats
    |-- Equipments
    |-- Skills
  |-+ Strategy (practical, no OS description jargon here)
    |-- Party play
    |-- Solo play
  |-- See also
--+ [[Skills data]]
  |-- top of page links
  |-- data dump
  |-- See also
--+ [[Leveling suggestions]]
  |-- top of page links
  |-- communal data dump
  |-- See also

This would be a departure from current form, which has barely any content in the Class main pages. The structure I propose will warrant the removal of a few links from the main page, which you will like. I would like to place more into those, since they are on the main page afterall. On the other hand, the current level-up statistics pages are rather tatty and I intend to do something about it - the easiest way I can think of, is to write a form and urge players to send in information which will then be compared and processed. Such data collection should be easier on the forums, but that's not a priority.

Skills data page - Mage Skills is a good example. As for guides, Mage Guide has a lot of content, though not necessarily in the right order.

I believe most of it is descriptive or organisational changes, so don't stress yourself too much over the layout.

Thanks, exactly what I wanted to know. I can get started on rough guides sometime soon (weekend coming up) so I should have some time. I can't help much with actual in-game content as I don't have Fiesta installed but can draft information and rough outlines. Was kinda disappointed with the the class-sections in the wiki the first time I looked, so I've always wanted to help change them. Thanks for the reply Lvramire 15:51, 25 March 2009 (CDT)

Now this is just a comment in passing - funny how the the wiki is maintained by people who don't actually play the game. Icy 20:25, 25 March 2009 (CDT)

The circle is complete. lvramire 22:05, 25 March 2009 (CDT)

That is because those of us who still play Fiesta spend time in the game instead of doing the work, except me who runs the game on one monitor while working on wiki in another. Gives me something to do during the downtime.

I spent a total of 400 playing hours in-game, spread over 4 months. Won't gain extra knowledge of game mechanics from more game time. I spend my time educating myself. However, the wiki lets one show their organisational freak side. Icy 21:19, 26 March 2009 (CDT)

The Archer page seems to match the layout pretty well already. I'm going to go ahead and base the other 3 on that. Question though, when it says character stats on the layout^ for class pages, does that mean the big table with all the stats for levels until 89, or does it mean only the base level one stats? I'm also assuming that "Link to gameplay guide including skill recommendations" means skill recommendations will be on the guide-page, not on the class page itself? lvramire 09:54, 27 March 2009 (CDT)

Gameplay guide, skills suggestions, equipments suggestions, strategies, etc -> Guide

Where to grind, etc, clutter, clutter -> Leveling suggestions

Class stats = table -> Class page

Skill data & description -> Skills

Equipment stats, information -> Link to relevant page in the Items section

Icy 20:22, 27 March 2009 (CDT)

Repeated mob location

While it IS reduntant to repeat the location of the monster, basic info gives you only a General idea of it's location, IF one were to say that they sold candy canes downtown, Would you not want to know which store? In this case, Nox captains are found in Uruga, And i added (The outskirts of) in the description, so players could better find them. I could easily add a map with red circles, if that's what you mean. PM me and i can start mapping out mob locations at any time.

Regards Senyx 08:22, 14 April 2009 (CDT)

Actually...I added that outskirts part. Check the page-history xD

Thing is that the info about locations you give in the overview usually aren't more helpful than the info given in the template. Sure you said that Nox Captains can be found in certain rooms, but that isn't that helpful either...unless it's something more specific, I thought it'd be best to not mention it. lvramire 12:07, 14 April 2009 (CDT)

So for specific monsters, Should i Add a map with the areas circled/shaded? It'd make more sense. And i thought I added the Outskirts part, I must be getting old T_T

SenyxTheSoullessone-4682

Maybe just add a little more specific info on where exactly they can be found. Co-ordinates and room particulars, large cluster locations and such. Maps and images seem like too much work to implement uniformly.

You think so? Maybe i could just upload the map for each area, Like for example

Luminous Stone: [Example] And color code the mobs and maps. Kebing (Shown in red on the map) It's more efficient, but just as helpful, What do you think?

SenyxTheSoullessone-4682

I remember we used to have maps with coded locations of all the mobs. Think it was either on the Wiki or on the forums somewhere. Fell to disuse over time and with the overhaul of mob-positions with a patch.

Then I guess i'll just have to depict it using words, Not as easy to point out where the Giant Orc Captain is located, among all the same-looking Orc Captains, But i can make it work. SenyxTheSoullessone-4682

The current way this is done is when someone has time they do something like this:

thumbnail This shows you all the mobs in that zone. Now I think your talking about the mob page locations and I would suggest something on the lines of (orcs for example) orcs are found right outside Uruga see Uruga#Other_information for more accurate location. Gandalfa82 17:07, 17 April 2009 (CDT)