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Old 03-01-2009, 09:52 PM   #1
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I was lead to believe that the STR in freestat is "stronger" than STR in gear..

Something about the STR in free stat ignores the defence of the mob / person..


The reason why you don't hear people suggest 25 STR/ rest SPR, is because STR doesnt "cap" the way SPR does.. SPR's crit % drops after the first 25 points.. but STR, continues to add 1 dmg.. so if you want 25STR/rest SPR, you may as well just go full SPR... (IMO)

But I agree that I think more crit the better... SPR seems to work really well with archers, because their bow/xbow has a good crit rate to start off with...
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:10 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by Hessah View Post
I was lead to believe that the STR in freestat is "stronger" than STR in gear..

Something about the STR in free stat ignores the defence of the mob / person..


The reason why you don't hear people suggest 25 STR/ rest SPR, is because STR doesnt "cap" the way SPR does.. SPR's crit % drops after the first 25 points.. but STR, continues to add 1 dmg.. so if you want 25STR/rest SPR, you may as well just go full SPR... (IMO)

But I agree that I think more crit the better... SPR seems to work really well with archers, because their bow/xbow has a good crit rate to start off with...
our crit rate isnt any better than anyone else's acctually, though i think maybe we should have a slightly faster attack and a slightly larger crit, it doesnt happen that way ._.

but the strength in free stat WOULD give a bit of backbone to the crits
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:15 PM   #3
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if you play a mage, you'll know the crit rate of a mage SUCKS

2-4% compare to 7-8% makes a huge difference..

Crit of cleric's not too bad i think, fighters are so-so...

but yeah, mage probably has a slower attack rate, I find that SPR in mage is pretty useless, works better in INT...




whether STR gives a backbone to crits.. that's.. a age long debate..
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:33 AM   #4
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if you play a mage, you'll know the crit rate of a mage SUCKS

2-4% compare to 7-8% makes a huge difference..

Crit of cleric's not too bad i think, fighters are so-so...

but yeah, mage probably has a slower attack rate, I find that SPR in mage is pretty useless, works better in INT...




whether STR gives a backbone to crits.. that's.. a age long debate..
no, the crit rate depends only on weapon type (i.e. crossbow vs. bow, hammer vs. mace) and whether or not you have a green... check the smiths, we all have the same rate. im pretty sure, at least... unless i missed an update.

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Green Mage Weapon has always had only 2-5% crit..

Green archer weapons have generally 6-8%



It has always been like that, no updates changed the crit rates of weapons...
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It's because everyone says that STR from equips doesn't bypass defense unlike STR from free-stat. So it's pretty much nerfed/nullified.


Crit. rate has always depended on weapon type, and Archer's have always had the highest 'natural crit %. It's not like Mages can equip Crossbows xD
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Green Mage Weapon has always had only 2-5% crit..

Green archer weapons have generally 6-8%



It has always been like that, no updates changed the crit rates of weapons...
ah, that's because of the type of green. back when i hung out on the outspark forums, they had a thread about how the greens names acctually effect the effects... wind raises aim, thunder and some other stuff raises crit rate, and so on... mages have different green titles though, like sad moon, so they have different effects.

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It's because everyone says that STR from equips doesn't bypass defense unlike STR from free-stat. So it's pretty much nerfed/nullified.


Crit. rate has always depended on weapon type, and Archer's have always had the highest 'natural crit %. It's not like Mages can equip Crossbows xD
hm... i dont think our weapons have any more crit naturally... i could be wrong, but i think wands have the same % as xbows... o.o

i'll have to check... maybe you guys are right and im simply confuzled...

EDIT: bwah, you're right... crap, sorry, that was a screw up for me... but fighters have our crit, and clerics are rather close... only 1% away.

and that DOES show that we're seemingly made for crits... therefore, why not back it up with spirit?

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