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Old 10-10-2007, 10:49 PM   #1
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Did you also notice they never make awesome job barbies? Lol, yeah.. again, I only notice these things because I basically raise my niece(my sister is in prison and the dad fled). But yeah.. I was at an antique auction, they had things like the doctor barbie, air force, sports, etc. Now they're like "Sparkly fairy Barbie!!!"

Barbie no longer has every job in the world D: She obviously got high off of something and goes around riding a pegasus.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:55 PM   #2
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Its a hard say really....
But for most children imagination plays a very large part in thier lives. Problem is with Barbie and disney is that thier MILKING A GOLDEN COW with imaginations and not just with princesses. Its very easy to manipulate a child with their imagination and in the end all the businesses are just here for profit.

Sad thing these companies have changed the main stream thought of the lives of princesses and cowboys for example.

Princesses: the Disney/barbie mainstream thought:
Beautiful naturally , destinied to find the prince of her dreams for no apparent reason whatsoever

Princesses in reality in the medieval times:
They were pampered like the mainstream thought allowed but 9 times out of 10 their marriages were forced for political reason. If you were a princess, have fun being in a FORCED MARRIAGE with some random guy you've never met before 20 YEARS OLDER THAN YOU just so the guy's father doesn't invade your homecountry and kill everyone.....

Cowboys: Mainstream thought
Bad@$$ western americans who follow thier own rules and constantly get into gun fights and battles with the native americans. Always gets the girl

Cowboys: reality
You just basically moved cattle from point A to point B to sell the meat most of your life. Technically your almost like a sheperd. The Profession really did not last very long once railroads were established. If you wanted to court a lady your profession was just plain PUTRID hygenically even by standards in that time.


And as for the lack of Great jobs for barbies, their REALLY inspiring girls to be lazy arrogant women when they grow up.... Today, people who act like princesses are loathed (I.e Paris Hilton) But disney and barbie aren't really help stop that...
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:11 AM   #3
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Well lets see, the two disney princesses I liked were Ariel (Who int he book of hte little mermaid, eric rejected her, and she comitted suicide because of it >_> WTG disney) And Belle from beauty and the beast, who wasn't actually a princess.

Cinderella was okay too I guess, she was in a pretty bad spot. :x But some of the other ones just make me sick. I don't like the whole "BE THE BEST YOU CAN BE.... BUT ONLY TO GET A GUY" ~_~ Guys suck either way D:
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"BE THE BEST YOU CAN BE.... BUT ONLY TO GET A GUY" ~_~ Guys suck either way D:

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Rofl XD Well devoting your life just to get one's attention is stupid and will only get people hurt >_> Since if you have to devote your whole self JUST to get attention, something isn't right either way =p
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Rofl XD Well devoting your life just to get one's attention is stupid and will only get people hurt >_> Since if you have to devote your whole self JUST to get attention, something isn't right either way =p
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In my opinion, it has changed from one to the other. A while back, when these movies first came out (or rather, when the Stories did), they were meant to inspire children, not only little girls, into showing that no matter what the situation is, things can change for the better. However, now that the celebrities are everywhere on the news getting special treatment and whatever they want. *cough* Paris *cough*. The idea of the "princess" is not bad in and of itself, but it is more on the parent to help shape the child's understanding on it. Which is where most of the problems stem from, the parents not guiding their children as they should. On a side note, I find it amusing that I am only 16 and already critisizing the current offspring. XD Well, thats my two cents.
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Well lets see, the two disney princesses I liked were Ariel (Who int he book of hte little mermaid, eric rejected her, and she comitted suicide because of it >_> WTG disney) And Belle from beauty and the beast, who wasn't actually a princess.

Cinderella was okay too I guess, she was in a pretty bad spot. :x But some of the other ones just make me sick. I don't like the whole "BE THE BEST YOU CAN BE.... BUT ONLY TO GET A GUY" ~_~ Guys suck either way D:
Im sorry but that just made me lol so hard. I haven't read the real story. Disney really dressed it up, didn't they.

Kinda off topic but its about disney, but has anyone else noticed something "interesting" in the scene where Simba falls on the flowers and they float into the air in The Lion King?
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First - re: Princesses, Disney or otherwise, and little girls: It's all about the glitter and glam. Fancy dress, crown with jewels, shiny wands . . . yep name that princess anything you want and put her in whatever setting you want but put a fluffy puffy satin gown and sparkly crown on her and the little girls want to be her. I helped raise my baby sister, I raised Spirit, I have had my granddaughter (who will soon turn 13) most weekends of her life and now I have the 2-1/2 year old granddaughter most weekends and they have all gone or is going through the Princess thing and yet none grew up thinking they we due special treatment as a princess (Spirit likes to think she is entitled to princess treatment, but in reality she knows better).

Yep, it’s all about the glitter and glam at the Disney Princess phase of their lives.


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Kinda off topic but its about disney, but has anyone else noticed something "interesting" in the scene where Simba falls on the flowers and they float into the air in The Lion King?
Second – re: Lion King, You gonna tell us or do I have to put the durn DVD in to find it?
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First - re: Princesses, Disney or otherwise, and little girls: It's all about the glitter and glam. Fancy dress, crown with jewels, shiny wands . . . yep name that princess anything you want and put her in whatever setting you want but put a fluffy puffy satin gown and sparkly crown on her and the little girls want to be her. I helped raise my baby sister, I raised Spirit, I have had my granddaughter (who will soon turn 13) most weekends of her life and now I have the 2-1/2 year old granddaughter most weekends and they have all gone or is going through the Princess thing and yet none grew up thinking they we due special treatment as a princess (Spirit likes to think she is entitled to princess treatment, but in reality she knows better).

Yep, it’s all about the glitter and glam at the Disney Princess phase of their lives.




Second – re: Lion King, You gonna tell us or do I have to put the durn DVD in to find it?
Ill tell you. In that scene where he falls on the flowers and they float into the air, if you pause the scene, the flowers clearly spell out the word "SEX" If you dont believe me, go check it out. Its very obvious
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