Ugh! >_> Annoying people

[Manzcar]

Emphasis mine. Aren't you doing...exactly what you say you're against? Just clarifying your statements.

It seems beyond silly to get enraged over behaviour you then commit. Do two wrongs make a right? Are you then angry at yourself for resorting to the same behaviour you commit? I'm curious how that works. Is it a case of cognitive dissonance?

Hey Hraesvelg.

Ahhh the age old question. Is pointing out the racist and stating that you hate them, being just as bad as they are because you are in essence hating a particular group of people because of who they are?

Anger and rage in itself are not evil, but what you do with that anger and rage is what can be determined as evil or good.

Take again the hate someone has for the racist, so they then turn that into a group to educate and spread understanding so the racist has no grounds to stand on. They form groups to help the less fortunate get back on their feet. And they speak out against the racist any time they can. They still hate the racist and don't want them to flurish. Are their actions good or evil.

Then look at the racist who burns down churches and commits acts of violence against others. Are their actions good or evil.

Remember that because of anger a new nation was born in order for all to have the right for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention cheaper tea.

[Ivramire]

Hey Hraesvelg.

Ahhh the age old question. Is pointing out the racist and stating that you hate them, being just as bad as they are because you are in essence hating a particular group of people because of who they are?

I think that it's different though because racists discriminate against people on the basis of skin/race/color/country i.e. fundamental things that one cannot change or that one had no choice in the matter becoming.


People who hate 'racists' on the other hand do so as racism can be likened to a viewpoint or opinion for lack of a better way to describe it. Something that a person chooses to believe and something that's possible to change. It can be said that some become racists because of ignorance/misinformation/parental influence and in case of the latter, isn't really something that can be held against them as a child should implicitly trust their parents but it is still something that can be changed through education.

[Manzcar]

racism is just an example.

look at it this way.

I say mean people suck.

so am I now mean?

If I stop a bully from beating up on little kids by using a little force.

am I now a bully?

The question here is, is it wrong to point out people are being jerks and stating that you think they are being big jerks cause they are being mean and nasty being just as bad as they are?

Everyone has their own opinion I am sure.

[Ivramire]

Nawww, just saying because I said much the same thing when a similar question was asked in an Ethics class.


It is of course all objective and depends on the situation.

[Hraesvelg]

Keep in mind I never made a value judgement about the content of the post, merely had questions about the motives behind it. I was curious at what point someone thinks a behaviour becomes acceptable (keep in mind I'm not saying if I think it IS acceptable or not, merely what they see as acceptable).

I now see that both Spirit and Loki feel that calling someone, or a group of someones, an insulting name is ok as long as its not directed to an individual or a specific group. As a very lose example (and using race since Manz brought it up) calling David Duke a racist scumbag is wrong (an individual), calling the Klan racist scumbags is wrong (a specific group/organization), but calling racists scumbags is perfectly ok.

[MikeyG]

Hrae, your posts are always wise and they always entertain me ^_^

[+Tequila+]

+1 @ Hraes. I think i made a comment close to what you said a while ago xD.