Remember, you MUST register to post on the Fiesta Fan forums. It's completely free to join. Just click HERE to become a member for free!


REGISTER NOW TO REMOVE ALL ADS ON THIS FORUM!

View Poll Results: Should Falcomist be permanently banned?
Yes. 8 9.30%
No. 78 90.70%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 05-06-2008, 01:27 AM   #13
AngellicDiety
Marlone
 

In-Game Name: AngellicDiety
Current Level: 1 divided by zero
Server: Teva
Posts: 288
AngellicDiety will become famous soon enoughAngellicDiety will become famous soon enough
Originally Posted by Lady-Loki View Post
Regardless of "Freedom of Speech" there are also Harassment Laws that have been upheld in court where employers are under court order to ensure a workplace that is free of harassment based on sexual, racial, and religious, on and on. The courts upheld the Harassment Law over the "Freedom of Speech".

In raw terms, there isn't "absolute" freedom of speech. You can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater; you'll get arrested.

Theoretically, you are free to speak your mind without fear of retribution. On the other hand: With the way our society has become, some things you are NOT free to say. "Hate speech" i.e. racial comments as an example.

But this issue has nothing to do with Constitutional rights or “Freedom of Speech”. It is solely a matter of Outspark enforcing the TOS. If you don't abide by them, then Outspark can, at their discretion, perma-ban you. And I do not really think anyone plans to take them to court, so, the TOS is pretty much the law in this case. And, I also believe that if Falcomist took them to court Outspark would win because based on whatever screenies they had submitted, he violated their TOS in regards to some form of racial slur, and like an employer, Outspark has an obligation and a right to ensure a game environment that is free of harassment based on sexual, racial, religious, on and on.
Yes while that is all true,

I merely commented on the fact that you said a contract and terms of service can have anything in it and it must be upheld.

A contract in its most general form still cannot violate the law, which you had implied in the post previous.

Whilst, your arguments are sound, and are correct, I think you misunderstood what it was I was commenting about.

Originally Posted by +Tequila+ View Post
technically the internet is not governed by the bill of rights. There are really no laws as to what you can and can't do on the internet which is why things like private servers , free movie sites and other things can exist there. So if a company wants to set a english only rule they can. My stepdad and his wife work for the FBI and I've spoken to them many times on this subject and they've always said the same thing as what Loki has stated.
Unfortunately, that is not entire true.

Whilst the internet is not technically governed by law, the hosts, web sites, specifically the hard-ware server that resides within a country is subject to that countries law.

Unfortunately, your stepdad was only commenting on the cases overseas' and outside of the United States of America, whereby the FBI has no real power to enforce anything.

But, over domestic related issues they have full authority.

Dont believe me? Its simple, start up warez site within the United states, make it popular, and you will have law-enforcement at your door for violating domestic copyright laws.
AngellicDiety is offline  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:24 AM.
Design by Vjacheslav Trushkin, color scheme by ColorizeIt!.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.