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Old 08-17-2007, 01:36 AM   #1
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No need to flip out, I don't think one person in this thread accused the GMs of playing favourites.

The reason favourites was brought up was because in many cases when GMs are this casual and interactive with the community, favouritism happens. Theres a tons of MMOs out there and it's happened to a lot of them.

We already know since its CB they're going crazy with handouts, although yes, they have done a good job at making the handouts relatively global, or to people who have won contests. So if there is going to be chances at free gifts that's a good way of doing it.

Some are just concerned though, that people who are friends with the GMs, may be given more leniency in the rules of the game, or be slipped gifts, causing an imbalance to the game, and ruining it for people who are unable to befriend the GMs. In no way am I accusing anyone, but its something that has happened and is a concern to many players that want to have an enjoyable gaming experience.

Not only is it a concern for the players, but the gaming companies themselves. You mention the Flyff community being abandoned. This isn't true. GMs, for example, Limester, who was very active with the Flyff community and many players loved was fired, because of the handing out of items, and giving certain players levels. *coughstragocough* Because of all this, the GMs currently employed by Galanet rarely make an appearance, and only do scheduled events. This was done EXACTLY to stop these problems. You call it abandoning the players? Galanet calls it NOT LOSING MONEY.

And this is why chummy GMs has been such a concern.
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:40 AM   #2
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No need to flip out, I don't think one person in this thread accused the GMs of playing favourites.

The reason favourites was brought up was because in many cases when GMs are this casual and interactive with the community, favouritism happens. Theres a tons of MMOs out there and it's happened to a lot of them.

We already know since its CB they're going crazy with handouts, although yes, they have done a good job at making the handouts relatively global, or to people who have won contests. So if there is going to be chances at free gifts that's a good way of doing it.

Some are just concerned though, that people who are friends with the GMs, may be given more leniency in the rules of the game, or be slipped gifts, causing an imbalance to the game, and ruining it for people who are unable to befriend the GMs. In no way am I accusing anyone, but its something that has happened and is a concern to many players that want to have an enjoyable gaming experience.

Not only is it a concern for the players, but the gaming companies themselves. You mention the Flyff community being abandoned. This isn't true. GMs, for example, Limester, who was very active with the Flyff community and many players loved was fired, because of the handing out of items, and giving certain players levels. *coughstragocough* Because of all this, the GMs currently employed by Galanet rarely make an appearance, and only do scheduled events. This was done EXACTLY to stop these problems. You call it abandoning the players? Galanet calls it NOT LOSING MONEY.

And this is why chummy GMs has been such a concern.
Again like I said can you people find one instance of people being slipped gifts? And has anyone been given lvls? So until that happens keep your favoritism crap to yourselves ^^ FiestaFan will be a much happier place that way. Again fail tyvm....and me flipping out was directed @ Harlot who I have every right to flip out on ^^ kthnxbye.
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:55 AM   #3
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Do you even read?

NOBODY ACCUSED THE GMS OF DOING ANYTHING, THEY ARE JUST -CONCERNED- THAT THINGS MAY HAPPEN.

People can have opinions. Just because you're friends with GMs doesn't mean you can govern what people may think about them.
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:00 AM   #4
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You don't need to join to read these forums, you nit wit. And furthermore - Just because I'm not a mod on these forums doesn't mean my opinion is null and void.

I don't care what he did. He didn't do anything bad to me or any of my friends, so I have no reason to hold anything against him. He was a troublemaker? Big deal. Build a bridge and get over it, or do us a favor and jump off it. NOBODY IN THIS THREAD CARES, this thread is about GMS, not him. Grow up.
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:44 AM   #5
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Again, I agree with Sigurd, and seriously, stop flipping out and attacking DwLee.
Flyff GMs actually are somewhat active, especially on the forums. Xagel for instance is even active on flyffworld. He doesn't have to do that but he does. They still do events, too.

But yeah, you need to cool your jets and not attack other members. >_> Its not becoming, even if you are just trying to make a point. If you have something to yell at him/her about, you should do it in PM or something.

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After reading the thing you posted - Nobody is saying anybody is being favorited, just that GMS befriending players leads them to give them stuff. Friends help each other, lol. Its not a bad thing to want to help your friends, but making them have an advantage of other players just because of it isn't right. ;o
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:47 AM   #6
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Again, I agree with Sigurd, and seriously, stop flipping out and attacking DwLee.
Flyff GMs actually are somewhat active, especially on the forums. Xagel for instance is even active on flyffworld. He doesn't have to do that but he does. They still do events, too.

But yeah, you need to cool your jets and not attack other members. >_> Its not becoming, even if you are just trying to make a point. If you have something to yell at him/her about, you should do it in PM or something.
Ok dude read ^ please you dont know the history with Harlot as you have 9 or whatever amount of post here an havent been here very long. So any attack on him is justified.
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9+ post doesn't mean I don't lurk. And to be honest, I don't know what went on with him, but I do know that no matter what the case, flaming somebody like that is wrong. His post wasn't saying anything derogative or aggressive, so I suggest you man-up and act civil.


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9+ post doesn't mean I don't lurk. And to be honest, I don't know what went on with him, but I do know that no matter what the case, flaming somebody like that is wrong. His post wasn't saying anything derogative or aggressive, so I suggest you man-up and act civil.


> Join Date: 08-14-2007 < *Cough* okay dude....wait i just noticed something you dont have that magic Administrator or Moderator tag next to your name so why am I even responding to you? but since you dont know let give you some background: DwLee aka Harlot aka Delilah has been a troublemaker since day one..hes already been banned once on Fiesta..sheer stupidity. kthnxbye^^

@Sigurd Friends wtf? dude...its like this we get more scrutiny from the gms then anyone else simplye because of our lvls..AND yes HARLOT WAS making accusations of favoritism from the GMS but again dude you just dont know this. ^^. Hes caused us/me trouble in the past but again dude you just dont know ^^.
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:00 AM   #9
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Thread closed. This is just going to become a flame war. Please resolve the matters via pm's if you must.
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Well I don't see why we should worry about something that hasn't even happened yet. What can we do? Complain already when the GMs haven't even done any favouritism?

I'm not saying this will not happen in Fiesta, but there is no use worrying or complaining about something that hasn't even happened. Besides, I personally don't really see how a GM "slipping" any certain player a gift will ruin the economy. After all, it is only that one player that gets the extra item, and I highly doubt that's going to affect the WHOLE economy. It is only if GMs give gifts to everyone (like spawning treasure chests everywhere) that would significantly affect the economy. But then again, I'm not a terribly experienced MMORPG player soooo I'm just taking a guess. xD

Some people might think it's unfair if a GM does that. Sure, it's not really fair, but so what? Personally, I don't care if someone got a special item from a GM. It's not going to affect me unless they use it against me in PvP or whatever.
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