Sigh.

Jikanu · 12-23-2009, 06:33 AM

Exactly. So this is really a rather pointless argument, seeing as neither side has proof, isnt it?

My initial point was thus:

Religion, or faith, rather, is a safe, pure thing. Its corruption and bigotry within human beings, along with our resistance to thinking for ourselves, that makes it a tool of hate.

Quote:

"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven."
-Matthew 5:43-45

Doesnt exactly relate, but its general message does.

**MikeyG** · 12-23-2009, 06:34 AM

I wasn't arguing. Your defensiveness is annoying.

Jikanu · 12-23-2009, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by Hessah

Wait I missed a few post.. Proof? I was just gonna question how you proved that Mary was a virgin, Jesus died and came back alive, and that his body disappeared magically into a better place...?

Originally Posted by Jikanu

...this is really a rather pointless argument, seeing as neither side has proof, isnt it?

.

However, if its proof you're after...

http://www.bustedhalo.com/features/death-becomes-them/

further, completely unbiased source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorruptibility

**Hessah** · 12-23-2009, 07:03 AM

I thought science was enough of a proof that you cant conceive without sperms.. but OK... I do agree that it's a pointless matter LOL

The thing is.. I don't believe in heaven! or hell..

I'm not doing good things so I can get somewhere after I die.. the concept of doing good thing is great but.. i dunno.. I die and I just die.. LOL I live in people's memories and the result of my existence carries on.. that's it...

**Hessah** · 12-23-2009, 07:15 AM

I've never heard of the Incorruptibilty thing (yeah that's how much I know LOL).. but that is interesting~

Though that doesn't really change my mind about christianity...

Jikanu · 12-23-2009, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by Hessah

I thought science was enough of a proof that you cant conceive without sperms.. but OK... I do agree that it's a pointless matter LOL

The thing is.. I don't believe in heaven! or hell..

I'm not doing good things so I can get somewhere after I die.. the concept of doing good thing is great but.. i dunno.. I die and I just die.. LOL I live in people's memories and the result of my existence carries on.. that's it...

No one can really say for sure. All we can do is make guesses.

@ the science remark: that's rather moot when you have an all-powerful deity who wants something done o.o