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Loveless 01-29-2009 03:21 PM

PvP KQs
 
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Originally Posted by Spirit
This topic brought over from this thread, so as to not take away from the guide.



You can still get decent exp even if you come dead last in the PvP KQ? I knew I couldn't compete with these fully cashed players so I never bothered to enter it... and I wasn't about to charm up either for it. Maybe I'll try it out when I get the chance next time.

@Blahs: Pretty bad at 80+? That's quite an understatement. >_O One level away from pretty BK and I'm still not that motivated to level.

Spirit 01-29-2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Loveless (Post 287664)
You can still get decent exp even if you come dead last in the PvP KQ? I knew I couldn't compete with these fully cashed players so I never bothered to enter it... and I wasn't about to charm up either for it. Maybe I'll try it out when I get the chance next time.

@Blahs: Pretty bad at 80+? That's quite an understatement. >_O One level away from pretty BK and I'm still not that motivated to level.

At level 84 coming in last in the PvP KQ will only net you about 1.85%. At level 75 it nets you 6%. It is better to jump in everyone that you can, simply to give you an extra boost when you can get the most out of it.


I knew I had no chance, so I wouldn't even bother using stones, scrolls, or anything. I would let them kill me. Lay on the ground till my time ran out. Pop up, die again. 6 easiest % I got.
You just have to do like in regular KQs and watch the time, because you get nothing laying on the ground when it ends.

Loveless 01-29-2009 03:47 PM

1.85% is better than nothing at that level, that's for sure. That'll be the easiest % in 30min(?) That's how much I'd get in GHS solo... but in KQ I won't lose exp dying and I won't even have to use as many stones. Sounds good.

Shiirn 01-29-2009 04:12 PM

The only problem i have with doing that is that it completely ruins the pvp kq itself...i mean, free kills. come on. that's not right. That'll screw up the rankings...

Spirit 01-29-2009 05:06 PM

Versus capped out level 89s with charms and mights in there actively searching out the lvl 75 mages and clerics that 1 stun and 1 hit kills them? Also, running right past someone who is in their same guild to get to that person.
Or versus people actually double-teaming? One high-level fighter stuns, then stands there and lets the other cleric take the kill, so that the cleric has a chance to win.

The whole entire thing is whacked. I am not adding any more whack to it than it already is. The KQs already have people who plot and plan out way before hand. After about my first 5 actually trying to play fair, I realized what was going on and decided I wasn't wasting my stones on them, but I sure wanted the exp.

Seriously, when they set it up so that a fighter with anywhere from 5K-8K HP goes against a mage with max. 3K HP - How is that any different? THe KQs are already too screwed up to worry about fairness. The top-leveled PKers already have it planned out. Me simply not fighting back is not changing the fact that they are going to kill me anyways.

My way, I don't waste stones. Same results though.

Loveless 01-29-2009 05:12 PM

Yup. Though I am a fighter myself I'm a tanker... I probably won't get killed in one or two hits after a stun but I'm not killing anyone myself either. Add on the fact that these axe fighters are fully +9'd... they have more def than me who doesn't have +9 armour. I might stand a chance against the squishies once I get my BK but that isn't going to change my standings either. >_<

I'm just really hoping to level to 85 to try out DT.

Phantom Badger 01-29-2009 09:08 PM

Hah, I'm a cleric and I always get either 4th or 3rd, never higher or less D:

Spirit 01-29-2009 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackDragonEX (Post 287754)
Hah, I'm a cleric and I always get either 4th or 3rd, never higher or less D:

Yes, but you are also level 68, with the highest level in your KQ being 69.

Lady-Loki 01-29-2009 10:46 PM

I agree with Spirit, the whole pvp KQ is whacked already.

My L84 mage gets OHKO by tanks non-stop or hit by an archer who will kill me in 2 hits. And without being able to use pots the cd on stones is pure damn ridiculous when you have teams of 2 or 3 capped or nearly capped who work on getting in together so they can control the win. Why the hell even try - just get some exp out of it and save someone who may have thought they had a snowballs chance in hell from going in just to get owned by that group of 2 -3.

I have seen people in there with more than twice my hp and I can't imagine that my hp will increase by that amount by the time I cal so obviously they are stacking END armor & such and most likely have +9'd most if not all of it. And on top of that they are apparently charmed to the max & sporting might scrolls.

And the sad thing is that until the cap is raised and some of these people move on, there is no chance against them on my mage even when I get closer to the cap. So yeah, it is already whacked - I just go in for the exp.


Hessah 01-29-2009 11:27 PM

Wow... PVP KQ for lvl 75+ is so dark...

I guess the skill / build / (and cash shop obsession) gap between classes various a lot more at higher levels, compare to when it was lvl 35-49....

Zwivix 01-29-2009 11:37 PM

I never PvP KQ unless I got 3 guidies joing too...I tried so hard to not be last.

Man now Im gonna enjoy myself. ^^

keratz 02-01-2009 07:40 PM

I agree that PVP Kq's are impossible to do with all these *I am full SC"Ed fighter with everything +9 I pwn joo and you stfu*.They just run and stun,and an archer like me can't really sruvive 3 chain stuns.....add the fact that there arent any pots and you can't use any scroll X_X

BabyAngie_EX 02-21-2009 01:48 PM

I'm a cleric with 2k def normal each time I joined KQ. I can compare between charmed and not charmed fighter. Even If that fighter PURE str, it can't make much damage to me. A charmed fighter can 1 hit and my hp half gone. PVP kq is actually easy if you know how to enjoy and play it. With my cleric I never got under top 1..Mostly top 3. Its all about the hammer. No need to go after some noobs.

Sparkeh 02-22-2009 08:27 AM

Well as i can tell D:

My hun joins with me<3 and she dont kill me,,,>.>

But they always team me ._. even that im 60 +9

But i hate this kq for 1 thing.........Teamer

1 Cleric attack me then 4 fighters!? o.o

as i say i suck but all i care is exp.......maybe 5-6%?

Sayed enough......but i <3 my hun

MikeyG 02-22-2009 07:06 PM

My mage was 6 wins and 1 2nd place and I only ever fully scrolled
but I never charmed up for it LOL. So its possible to do.

cillia 02-22-2009 07:16 PM

o-o i almost always get in the top 3 and i never scroll up

O.o im pretty much lvling from pvp kq since im to lazy. you should just see my inv half of it is exp increasers and war rants and set items from pvp kq XD i got 30% at lvl66 from just pvp kqing.. o.o

x3 you just have to get the hammer and have good luck

Cpt_Amazing 02-22-2009 07:33 PM

XD I'm always so confused whenever I go into a pvp kq, mainly cause my guild apparently has a lot of alliances that I don't know of with different guilds and people, I really only tend to go after people who go after me, all about self-defense ^_^ I never win though but it's fun being a low lvl with a hammer in the high pvp kq ^^

cillia 02-22-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cpt_Amazing (Post 299814)
I never win though but it's fun being a low lvl with a hammer in the high pvp kq ^^

except for when you get the hammer and get stunned and die 2 seconds later :ninja:

Hessah 02-22-2009 10:12 PM

What class to you play pvp on Cillia?

My fighter was great in PVP.. but my mage was hopeless...

cillia 02-22-2009 10:20 PM

i play as a cleric o.o

though i barely heal since once i get stunned im pretty much screwed XDD

LollyPop 02-23-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cpt_Amazing (Post 299814)
XD I'm always so confused whenever I go into a pvp kq, mainly cause my guild apparently has a lot of alliances that I don't know of with different guilds and people, I really only tend to go after people who go after me, all about self-defense ^_^ I never win though but it's fun being a low lvl with a hammer in the high pvp kq ^^

No offense to you but this is PVP not guild war. I understand alliances... just think it shouldn't have any influence in PVPKQ.

Shiirn 02-25-2009 03:48 AM

You can say that....doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

mightytwilight 03-03-2009 04:39 PM

I really don't care about the exp, I do them simply because it's so much fun. The first time I was in it my friend Cheryl_Blossom helped me out. It was alot of fun when I got the hammer

Loveless 03-03-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LollyPop (Post 300339)
No offense to you but this is PVP not guild war. I understand alliances... just think it shouldn't have any influence in PVPKQ.

You'd be surprised. Guild wars have happened for lesser reasons.

Samson007 03-11-2009 07:51 PM

So what's this about getting 6% at level 75 for coming in last? I just finished my first one ever about 5 minutes ago......dead last at L75 obviously.

Not only was it the least fun thing I ever did in this game, but I didn't get anything......no exp. Just 15 minutes of my time spent watching what was basically 2 guilds team up against everyone who was by themselves.

I used up all my quests and such getting to 75 on the understanding that I would get an easy 6% every time i managed to get into one of these...........fuck.

Shiirn 03-11-2009 08:35 PM

If you have less then 5000 points, you get nothing.



Just run around, avoid dying. Don't just stand there and let yourself die and immediatly respawn.


Also, like all other KQs, you need to be alive to get exp.

Spirit 03-11-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiirn (Post 305909)
If you have less then 5000 points, you get nothing.



Just run around, avoid dying. Don't just stand there and let yourself die and immediatly respawn.


Also, like all other KQs, you need to be alive to get exp.

^^ What she said. Plus, I did not know about the less than 5000 points, because even getting killed over and over, I have Never managed to get killed THAT many times.

Hessah 03-11-2009 10:33 PM

Lie dead, and stay dead... till you're forced up... and yeah get up 5-8 sec before the KQ ends...

Blaaaaaaaah 03-12-2009 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiirn (Post 305909)
If you have less then 5000 points, you get nothing.



Just run around, avoid dying. Don't just stand there and let yourself die and immediatly respawn.


Also, like all other KQs, you need to be alive to get exp.

Nothing as in.. no exp, no insignia too? o-o

Samson007 03-12-2009 03:16 AM

Yeah, i got nothing...exp or insignia.

But at least now I know why. Towards the end of it i wasn't even bothering healing after I died, I was just letting people kill me basically. Had no idea i had to have a certain amount of points to get any exp.

EDIT: Ahhhh, much better the 2nd time around. Only died 3 times as opposed to last times 20, lol. Even got the hammer once and scored a few kills. Finished 7th........theres the exp =p

keratz 03-14-2009 01:42 PM

Actually,there are some things in the PvP KQ that make it much more fair than guild war/pvp 1/abyss....

1.You can't party (though you can team.).This means,even if you team with someone,your aoe can still hit him.
2.You can't use ANY POT.Yes,this is prolly the most significant.All Pkers rely on pots to survive,mostly fighters,and in this KQ you only get to use stones and your skills.
3.You cant use any scroll.Even more fair.
4.Clerics cant heal anyone but themselves.basically means,nobody can get outside heal.

Sero 03-15-2009 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Spirit (Post 287665)
At level 75 it nets you 6%. It is better to jump in everyone that you can, simply to give you an extra boost when you can get the most out of it.


I knew I had no chance, so I wouldn't even bother using stones, scrolls, or anything. I would let them kill me. Lay on the ground till my time ran out. Pop up, die again. 6 easiest % I got.
You just have to do like in regular KQs and watch the time, because you get nothing laying on the ground when it ends.

.................

are you f-shittitting meh???
this must be the best thing that ever happened to me XD a light has finally shone down on SerodinSliver *choirs of angels sing*

That's awesome!! Hm lets see.... Alriiiiiight! 15 more VW KQs till level! Plus Shutian's quest, w/e the f that is. xD

Sparkeh 03-15-2009 12:10 PM

lmao sero =D

the 60+ kq isnt that hard >.>"

...I get the hammer alot ^^ and i get 1st place > when u guys not in ofc cuz u give me damn bad luck

Try getting the hammer and u feel fun o:...good luck ^


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