PvP KQs

**Loveless** · 01-29-2009, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Spirit

This topic brought over from this thread, so as to not take away from the guide.

You can still get decent exp even if you come dead last in the PvP KQ? I knew I couldn't compete with these fully cashed players so I never bothered to enter it... and I wasn't about to charm up either for it. Maybe I'll try it out when I get the chance next time.

@Blahs: Pretty bad at 80+? That's quite an understatement. >_O One level away from pretty BK and I'm still not that motivated to level.

**Spirit** · 01-29-2009, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Loveless

You can still get decent exp even if you come dead last in the PvP KQ? I knew I couldn't compete with these fully cashed players so I never bothered to enter it... and I wasn't about to charm up either for it. Maybe I'll try it out when I get the chance next time.

@Blahs: Pretty bad at 80+? That's quite an understatement. >_O One level away from pretty BK and I'm still not that motivated to level.

At level 84 coming in last in the PvP KQ will only net you about 1.85%. At level 75 it nets you 6%. It is better to jump in everyone that you can, simply to give you an extra boost when you can get the most out of it.

I knew I had no chance, so I wouldn't even bother using stones, scrolls, or anything. I would let them kill me. Lay on the ground till my time ran out. Pop up, die again. 6 easiest % I got.
You just have to do like in regular KQs and watch the time, because you get nothing laying on the ground when it ends.

**Loveless** · 01-29-2009, 03:47 PM

1.85% is better than nothing at that level, that's for sure. That'll be the easiest % in 30min(?) That's how much I'd get in GHS solo... but in KQ I won't lose exp dying and I won't even have to use as many stones. Sounds good.

Shiirn · 01-29-2009, 04:12 PM

The only problem i have with doing that is that it completely ruins the pvp kq itself...i mean, free kills. come on. that's not right. That'll screw up the rankings...

**Spirit** · 01-29-2009, 05:06 PM

Versus capped out level 89s with charms and mights in there actively searching out the lvl 75 mages and clerics that 1 stun and 1 hit kills them? Also, running right past someone who is in their same guild to get to that person.
Or versus people actually double-teaming? One high-level fighter stuns, then stands there and lets the other cleric take the kill, so that the cleric has a chance to win.

The whole entire thing is whacked. I am not adding any more whack to it than it already is. The KQs already have people who plot and plan out way before hand. After about my first 5 actually trying to play fair, I realized what was going on and decided I wasn't wasting my stones on them, but I sure wanted the exp.

Seriously, when they set it up so that a fighter with anywhere from 5K-8K HP goes against a mage with max. 3K HP - How is that any different? THe KQs are already too screwed up to worry about fairness. The top-leveled PKers already have it planned out. Me simply not fighting back is not changing the fact that they are going to kill me anyways.

My way, I don't waste stones. Same results though.

**Loveless** · 01-29-2009, 05:12 PM

Yup. Though I am a fighter myself I'm a tanker... I probably won't get killed in one or two hits after a stun but I'm not killing anyone myself either. Add on the fact that these axe fighters are fully +9'd... they have more def than me who doesn't have +9 armour. I might stand a chance against the squishies once I get my BK but that isn't going to change my standings either. >_<

I'm just really hoping to level to 85 to try out DT.

**Phantom Badger** · 01-29-2009, 09:08 PM

Hah, I'm a cleric and I always get either 4th or 3rd, never higher or less D:

**Spirit** · 01-29-2009, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by BlackDragonEX

Hah, I'm a cleric and I always get either 4th or 3rd, never higher or less D:

Yes, but you are also level 68, with the highest level in your KQ being 69.

**Lady-Loki** · 01-29-2009, 10:46 PM

I agree with Spirit, the whole pvp KQ is whacked already.

My L84 mage gets OHKO by tanks non-stop or hit by an archer who will kill me in 2 hits. And without being able to use pots the cd on stones is pure damn ridiculous when you have teams of 2 or 3 capped or nearly capped who work on getting in together so they can control the win. Why the hell even try - just get some exp out of it and save someone who may have thought they had a snowballs chance in hell from going in just to get owned by that group of 2 -3.

I have seen people in there with more than twice my hp and I can't imagine that my hp will increase by that amount by the time I cal so obviously they are stacking END armor & such and most likely have +9'd most if not all of it. And on top of that they are apparently charmed to the max & sporting might scrolls.

And the sad thing is that until the cap is raised and some of these people move on, there is no chance against them on my mage even when I get closer to the cap. So yeah, it is already whacked - I just go in for the exp.

**Hessah** · 01-29-2009, 11:27 PM

Wow... PVP KQ for lvl 75+ is so dark...

I guess the skill / build / (and cash shop obsession) gap between classes various a lot more at higher levels, compare to when it was lvl 35-49....