Does outspark never learn?

[AngellicDiety]

I dont know how far u can generalise this aspect, people who are are sick and requires new "testing" medications still have to pay for their own drugs...

i'd liked to see this cash shop thing as voluntary to contribution to Outspark's development and as a reward you get what you want to enhance ur gaming experience...

I dont see myself as paying for the service, i'm paying coz i want more dmg on my hammer, look better than my armour, ride faster than a hobby... i dont HAVE to pay anything for this game... i'm merely contributing my spare cash so they can maintain more staff to hopefully improve more...

they can call it beta all they like... just because there's a VOLUNTARY cash shop there doesnt mean they cant hv bugs and issues... we KNOW that there's still a lot to add to this game... it will never be the "full" version for a while... u know the terms and condition and u play with it..

u signed up to be a beta tester too.. our job is to tell them if there's anything wrong with the game as well...

Your keyword is voluntary.

You missed out "coercion."

Low experience rates, low monster counts, very few area's to grind promote the levelling pack.

Experience loss on death, particularily more important for mages, 1% of 12M is 120K. Thats a good 20 minutes of an AOE, or 1 hour of a slow solo. Ding, Ding! Blessing of Teva to the rescue!

Semi-permanent upgrades to "enhance" or should I say "rectify" playing experience promotes the purchase of hp/sp buffs.

I could go on and list a few more prominent aspects about the game that give the subliminal message to buy cash shop items.

Its not quite as "voluntary" as you believe.

[Blaaaaaaaah]

Experience loss on death, particularily more important for mages, 1% of 12M is 120K. Thats a good 20 minutes of an AOE, or 1 hour of a slow solo. Ding, Ding! Blessing of Teva to the rescue!

But most other mmorpgs are like that. The higher you are, the more exp you lose, the longer it takes to get it back. =/ Yeah, the blessing of teva is very tempting at that level, but still, it's the player alone that decides on whether to buy it or just put up with the exp loss and get it back all over again.

[Hessah]

i dont have to die! u just gotta look after ur own character more...

you can still get by and level in this game without ANY cash shop items.. yes u might be 10 times slower than ppl FULL of cash shop items but just because u're slower doesnt mean u're forced to buy it...

so you suggest that they shouldnt bring out any CS items coz they hvnt got their bugs fixed and no one has a choice to level 10 times faster?

then they'll lose us beta testers much quicker than ever and the game will never improve

[MikeyG]

could this x trap affect other games?

[Hessah]

i thought xtrap only load when u start Fiesta? so if it's not running it shouldnt effect other games.... (i think)

[Phibrizzo]

whoo, bunches of interesting stuff ~~~~

Most games are like that <.< I doubt they would officially launch a game when theres still issues. And who cares? Its just a term. It shows Outspark wants to have a problem free official launch.

define me: most games

because most games I know have officially released and still keep adding even more stuff that's been added to Fiesta, like whole new classes and such.

and just because it's cash shop doesn't mean a thing, it involves money the same way a pay2play game.
just so you know, free to play CS shop games are the new trend on online games, since companies can make even more profit from this than from monthly fees :/~

I'm with Angellic on this. cheap excuses, lack of testing, blablabla ~D:

[WizardsRequiem]

I could argue with some of this stuff but why bother? Angellic has pretty much hit the nail on the head each time. Hell... I think I should just copy and paste everything he says every time someone wants to defend Outspark.