
|
|
01-23-2008, 01:44 PM
|
#1
|
Slime
|
^^
thats all i am really worried about anyway
like ive said before, this is for a DD fighter (2 hand) not a tank
and for GW's...this is the spec no?
and it only add minimal magic defense...but when it comes to free stats...you only get +250 HP , minimal defense, and some blocking (worthless if your a 2h) , free stat dex is worthless since you can replace with scroll, free stat STR ups your base damage so you are doing what? 75 or so more damage a swing?
All the free stats really do not make or break your character, they all add very MINIMAL bonuses. Just because a tank goes full END with free stat does not mean he will tank better than the fighter next to him who is full STR and has better +END gear.
So what i am saying is if i went pure +SPR for the crit, SP and magic defense
my gear would cover me on END and STR which fighters need.
How is that not balanced for a DD fighter?
|
|
|
01-23-2008, 02:32 PM
|
#2
|
Naiad Demon
In-Game Name: Renin
Current Level: Renin- TEVA THE RENIN ON BIJOU IS A IMPOSTER
Server: SANITY IS FOR THE WEAK!!
Posts: 807
|
Originally Posted by inchai
|
^^
thats all i am really worried about anyway
like ive said before, this is for a DD fighter (2 hand) not a tank
and for GW's...this is the spec no?
and it only add minimal magic defense...but when it comes to free stats...you only get +250 HP , minimal defense, and some blocking (worthless if your a 2h) , free stat dex is worthless since you can replace with scroll, free stat STR ups your base damage so you are doing what? 75 or so more damage a swing?
All the free stats really do not make or break your character, they all add very MINIMAL bonuses. Just because a tank goes full END with free stat does not mean he will tank better than the fighter next to him who is full STR and has better +END gear.
So what i am saying is if i went pure +SPR for the crit, SP and magic defense
my gear would cover me on END and STR which fighters need.
How is that not balanced for a DD fighter?
|
Well the title said balanced build so i assumed you were talking balanced in general but not just in DD.
Str makes a signifcant bonus actually in the long run. Str adds to weapon damage so if a full str makes about 75 extra damage a swing but 150 damage if its a crit and grows pretty quickly over time.
Of course stats wouldn't break a character but those stats do help quite a bit regardless and i never said spr would break your character. In the long run though were talking about level 60+ (you get 30 stat points if i'm correct from lvl 60 quest) your free stat points begin to make a signifcant difference.
My gist from my previous post is, it'll be a bish to level that character unless you buy full licensed items. Then it'll just be 100 times easier if you weren't a crit build.... Expect to solo...ALOT
Understand i wasn't shooting down your build anyway. SPR atm gives the most beneifit out all of the stats but they do get thier leeway later.....
__________________
Renin- 5x warrior-Guild master Mont'Ka
Warslave= Not a person who is enslaved and sent to war to die but a person who is a slave to war itself.
Self Proclaimed Fighter Advocate
The meaning of victory is not to defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his every achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can recover. That is the meaning of victory.
|
|
|
01-23-2008, 02:34 PM
|
#3
|
Speedy Boogy
In-Game Name: StarLeona
Current Level: Capped
Server: Teva
Posts: 173
|
Quote:
|
Well Im sure Star gonna post soon... but Ill give a go at it haha.
|
LoLz, u know me Sheya ^^.
Well as far as i heard, and as far as i can imagine a full spr build WORKS pretty much identical to a full Str build. Due to really high critical rate this class is also great in PvP and if u get a shield and 1h for tanking occasions u will be fine. THERE is a very high probablity this BUILD is the best PvP build due to the fact that is becomes a mage hunting class and WE ALL KNOW mages after level 60 HIT REALLY REALLY hard  .
__________________
StarLeona lvl 7x Fighter
Guild Master of Serenity
DD full str Axe Fighter 1.3k+ Defence
REMEMBER THIS NAME cuz ONE DAY WILL BE LEGEND
|
|
|
01-23-2008, 02:44 PM
|
#4
|
Slime
|
my focus is going to be mostly PVP
^^ thank you for your input I studied all the stats and this was just something I noticed but never read about.
I think I am going to stick with pure SPR 
|
|
|
01-24-2008, 01:43 AM
|
#5
|
Marlone
In-Game Name: AngellicDiety
Current Level: 1 divided by zero
Server: Teva
Posts: 288
|
Originally Posted by -Leona-
|
LoLz, u know me Sheya ^^.
Well as far as i heard, and as far as i can imagine a full spr build WORKS pretty much identical to a full Str build. Due to really high critical rate this class is also great in PvP and if u get a shield and 1h for tanking occasions u will be fine. THERE is a very high probablity this BUILD is the best PvP build due to the fact that is becomes a mage hunting class and WE ALL KNOW mages after level 60 HIT REALLY REALLY hard .
|
Mages hit hard, but when it comes to PVP 1 on 1, archers are your worst damage dealing opponites.
They have:
1) More HP than a mage
2) More physical defense than a mage
3) More evasion than a mage
4) More physical damage than a fighter given a period of time.
Level 60 is when archers begin shining as a 1-opponite heavy damage dealing class.
They have the ability to drop their attack rate, coupled with the fact that fully empowered power and aimed shots really hurt! Their poisions quickly drain your hp (given the fact that they can give you two or three hp-draining poisions, bleeds, etc)
As for a full SPR build.
Its effective, yes.
Is it practical? Possibly.
Is it expensive? definitely.
I tell everyone this, its not your stats at all, its the armour and rings you place on your character. Your build adds a nice little bonus - though there is no real advantage to going deep into 1 stat as the rate % added gets reduced at a certain point, which makes no sense as there is no reward to going pure SPR/END/DEX.
With a full SPR build you will need good armour, green possibly, and enhanced if you wish to be able to take a few hits. In guild wars you may be useful against mages, and you may be able to critical more, however full SPR/STR fighters using stock armour will not be able to take very many hits.
As a full STR/SPR fighter you will need to be spending more silver enhancing your armour to meet up for the lack of extra hp. More money out of your bank account if you wish not to fail enhancing.
With good items any build works. People may laugh at full-INT fighters, but its going to be funny who has the last laugh when it comes time to use "eradicate." A fully empowered eradicate may possibly be better than power-hit. Dealing both physical and magical damage is just too much for any other class.
They'll either be lacking defense or magic defense (with the exception of clerics....  )
|
|
|
01-24-2008, 07:29 AM
|
#6
|
Mushroom
|
Building a character from scratch, you'd be looking for the best LEVELING alternative, and not PVP. That normally goes for every game you play out there, you're not looking for the most elitist build but the build that would get you up there fast so you'll be able to decide what you want.
After all, it's obvious that a level 100 with a pure INT build would beat a level 20 with the bestest build out there.
This is what I recommend for everyone that wants to level up:
At level 1-20 you'd best go full END to survive KQs, quests which would be your main source of experience unless you're a lucky bastard that gets power leveled at Uruga or CP. (Meaning you'll have 20 END by the time you hit 20 before your advancement)
Then after your advancement at level 20, you'll have 5 stats points to distribute and a FREE weapon of your choice which would be the 1 handed sword, 2 handed sword or the axe.
Put the stat points into SPR from now on from because from now on you'll have to be dependent on skills and not on swings, so pick up a 2 handed weapon to try it out, I recommend axe because axe is the highest damaging out of all 3.
From then on you want 25 SPR and after you get that, you can either continue END or start building STR.
|
|
|
01-25-2008, 01:58 PM
|
#7
|
Speedy Boogy
In-Game Name: StarLeona
Current Level: Capped
Server: Teva
Posts: 173
|
Quote:
|
Building a character from scratch, you'd be looking for the best LEVELING alternative, and not PVP. That normally goes for every game you play out there, you're not looking for the most elitist build but the build that would get you up there fast so you'll be able to decide what you want.
After all, it's obvious that a level 100 with a pure INT build would beat a level 20 with the bestest build out there.
|
Romeo PvP are the most fun way in MMO after u get to a high level cuz leveling becomes so darn boring, and if u think DD fighters can't level fast than well, start researching more pal.
ALSO distributing your free stats isn't such a good idea, although there are some people that will go for 3 stats and work wonders, is better to pick just 2 and stick with those since the bonuses will be more noticeable.
Up until level 20 your build does NOT MATTER, after that u start going into the secrets of aoe etc, and that is when your build slowly starts making a difference  .
__________________
StarLeona lvl 7x Fighter
Guild Master of Serenity
DD full str Axe Fighter 1.3k+ Defence
REMEMBER THIS NAME cuz ONE DAY WILL BE LEGEND
|
|
|
01-25-2008, 10:55 PM
|
#8
|
Mushroom
|
You miss my point Leona, you want to level the hell up before you go into a DD PVP build. Also, I'm not saying DD fighters can't level fast, but it'd be more expensive then if they duo their stats with END.
I'm telling you the BEST leveling alternative.
|
|
|
01-26-2008, 11:32 AM
|
#9
|
Speedy Boogy
In-Game Name: StarLeona
Current Level: Capped
Server: Teva
Posts: 173
|
Quote:
|
You miss my point Leona, you want to level the hell up before you go into a DD PVP build. Also, I'm not saying DD fighters can't level fast, but it'd be more expensive then if they duo their stats with END.
I'm telling you the BEST leveling alternative.
|
U R WRONG AGAIN ^^. If u gonna start giving me THE BEST LEVELING ALTERNATIVE, let me give u my opinion CUZ DEFINETELY THAT IS YOUR OPINION
25spr & rest Str, and u act as main tank, u deal more damage giving a lil extra something to help the mages with the damage.
U might say "BUT DD fighters can't tank" WROOOOOOONG. I myself am a fighter that has NO FREE stats distributed in END, and from items i only get 40 END (rings and pants). YET MY DEFENCE tops 1200 when i have a shield on (without using cash shop buffs). THEREFORE i tanked 11 ancient stonies and 2 demon elfes in FoS when i was level 67.
SO DON"T COME here saying "I'm telling you the BEST leveling alternative", because in fact there is no BEST OR PERFECT build, there are just opinions and a person should have fun with his/her character. AND believe it or not when u get to a really high level and u go into a war and can't deal good damage u'll be like "OH NO, i suck  "
__________________
StarLeona lvl 7x Fighter
Guild Master of Serenity
DD full str Axe Fighter 1.3k+ Defence
REMEMBER THIS NAME cuz ONE DAY WILL BE LEGEND
|
|
|
01-26-2008, 03:39 PM
|
#10
|
complete once again
Tournaments Won: 11
In-Game Name: Spirit_of_Water, Spirit_of_Earth, Spirit_of_Fire, Spirit_of_Wind, Spirit_of_Sky
Current Level: Level 101 Guardian, Level 70 Fighter, Level 90 Mage, Level 89 Archer, Level 72 Trickster
Server: Teva
Posts: 6,146
|
I think it is safe to say that everyone has their own prefernece. It does not mean that one person is right and oner perosn is wrong. It all depends on your playing style and what you like.
__________________
Spirit_of_Water- -Spirit_of_Earth- -Spirit_of_Fire- -Spirit_of_Wind- -Spirit_of_Skyx101xxxxxxxxxxx70xxxxxxxxxx90xxxxxxxxxx89xxxxxxxxxxx72
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 12:44 AM.
Design by Vjacheslav Trushkin, color scheme by ColorizeIt!.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6 Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
| |
| |