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Old 01-23-2008, 12:45 PM   #1
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im talking about a 2hand fighter mostly

obviously for a tank i dont think this would be the right build

but I solo more often then not so I dont worry about tanking, i want to kill the mob as fast as i can

with an axe and as high crit as i have they go down in 2-3 hits, with crits 2 at most

and i think gear would help cover the minimum HP / defense etc because free stats does not cover all those aspects.

in wars, this would really help getting close to those mages and archers

vs clerics your dmg is so high with crits , with stuns you can deal through their heals
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Old 01-23-2008, 01:02 PM   #2
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This build is not really balanced at all
It has very minimal defensive power so expect to die alot and to be pretty lacking when it comes to aoe parties.
One of your points is that the spr increase magic defense....but by how much?

45 points of spr = 22-23points of magic defense?...How helpful is that?...WORTHLESS. Regardless of how many points you throw into this stat mages WILL hit hard. At most your saving urself of 50 points of damage.

Now this build i only see as a DD
It should have some good progress in GWS ATLEAST.
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Old 01-23-2008, 01:44 PM   #3
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thats all i am really worried about anyway

like ive said before, this is for a DD fighter (2 hand) not a tank

and for GW's...this is the spec no?

and it only add minimal magic defense...but when it comes to free stats...you only get +250 HP , minimal defense, and some blocking (worthless if your a 2h) , free stat dex is worthless since you can replace with scroll, free stat STR ups your base damage so you are doing what? 75 or so more damage a swing?

All the free stats really do not make or break your character, they all add very MINIMAL bonuses. Just because a tank goes full END with free stat does not mean he will tank better than the fighter next to him who is full STR and has better +END gear.

So what i am saying is if i went pure +SPR for the crit, SP and magic defense
my gear would cover me on END and STR which fighters need.

How is that not balanced for a DD fighter?
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:32 PM   #4
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thats all i am really worried about anyway

like ive said before, this is for a DD fighter (2 hand) not a tank

and for GW's...this is the spec no?

and it only add minimal magic defense...but when it comes to free stats...you only get +250 HP , minimal defense, and some blocking (worthless if your a 2h) , free stat dex is worthless since you can replace with scroll, free stat STR ups your base damage so you are doing what? 75 or so more damage a swing?

All the free stats really do not make or break your character, they all add very MINIMAL bonuses. Just because a tank goes full END with free stat does not mean he will tank better than the fighter next to him who is full STR and has better +END gear.

So what i am saying is if i went pure +SPR for the crit, SP and magic defense
my gear would cover me on END and STR which fighters need.

How is that not balanced for a DD fighter?
Well the title said balanced build so i assumed you were talking balanced in general but not just in DD.

Str makes a signifcant bonus actually in the long run. Str adds to weapon damage so if a full str makes about 75 extra damage a swing but 150 damage if its a crit and grows pretty quickly over time.

Of course stats wouldn't break a character but those stats do help quite a bit regardless and i never said spr would break your character. In the long run though were talking about level 60+ (you get 30 stat points if i'm correct from lvl 60 quest) your free stat points begin to make a signifcant difference.

My gist from my previous post is, it'll be a bish to level that character unless you buy full licensed items. Then it'll just be 100 times easier if you weren't a crit build.... Expect to solo...ALOT

Understand i wasn't shooting down your build anyway. SPR atm gives the most beneifit out all of the stats but they do get thier leeway later.....
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:34 PM   #5
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Well as far as i heard, and as far as i can imagine a full spr build WORKS pretty much identical to a full Str build. Due to really high critical rate this class is also great in PvP and if u get a shield and 1h for tanking occasions u will be fine. THERE is a very high probablity this BUILD is the best PvP build due to the fact that is becomes a mage hunting class and WE ALL KNOW mages after level 60 HIT REALLY REALLY hard .
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:44 PM   #6
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my focus is going to be mostly PVP

^^ thank you for your input I studied all the stats and this was just something I noticed but never read about.

I think I am going to stick with pure SPR
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:43 AM   #7
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Well as far as i heard, and as far as i can imagine a full spr build WORKS pretty much identical to a full Str build. Due to really high critical rate this class is also great in PvP and if u get a shield and 1h for tanking occasions u will be fine. THERE is a very high probablity this BUILD is the best PvP build due to the fact that is becomes a mage hunting class and WE ALL KNOW mages after level 60 HIT REALLY REALLY hard .
Mages hit hard, but when it comes to PVP 1 on 1, archers are your worst damage dealing opponites.

They have:
1) More HP than a mage
2) More physical defense than a mage
3) More evasion than a mage
4) More physical damage than a fighter given a period of time.

Level 60 is when archers begin shining as a 1-opponite heavy damage dealing class.

They have the ability to drop their attack rate, coupled with the fact that fully empowered power and aimed shots really hurt! Their poisions quickly drain your hp (given the fact that they can give you two or three hp-draining poisions, bleeds, etc)


As for a full SPR build.

Its effective, yes.

Is it practical? Possibly.

Is it expensive? definitely.


I tell everyone this, its not your stats at all, its the armour and rings you place on your character. Your build adds a nice little bonus - though there is no real advantage to going deep into 1 stat as the rate % added gets reduced at a certain point, which makes no sense as there is no reward to going pure SPR/END/DEX.

With a full SPR build you will need good armour, green possibly, and enhanced if you wish to be able to take a few hits. In guild wars you may be useful against mages, and you may be able to critical more, however full SPR/STR fighters using stock armour will not be able to take very many hits.

As a full STR/SPR fighter you will need to be spending more silver enhancing your armour to meet up for the lack of extra hp. More money out of your bank account if you wish not to fail enhancing.

With good items any build works. People may laugh at full-INT fighters, but its going to be funny who has the last laugh when it comes time to use "eradicate." A fully empowered eradicate may possibly be better than power-hit. Dealing both physical and magical damage is just too much for any other class.

They'll either be lacking defense or magic defense (with the exception of clerics....)
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Building a character from scratch, you'd be looking for the best LEVELING alternative, and not PVP. That normally goes for every game you play out there, you're not looking for the most elitist build but the build that would get you up there fast so you'll be able to decide what you want.
After all, it's obvious that a level 100 with a pure INT build would beat a level 20 with the bestest build out there.

This is what I recommend for everyone that wants to level up:

At level 1-20 you'd best go full END to survive KQs, quests which would be your main source of experience unless you're a lucky bastard that gets power leveled at Uruga or CP. (Meaning you'll have 20 END by the time you hit 20 before your advancement)
Then after your advancement at level 20, you'll have 5 stats points to distribute and a FREE weapon of your choice which would be the 1 handed sword, 2 handed sword or the axe.

Put the stat points into SPR from now on from because from now on you'll have to be dependent on skills and not on swings, so pick up a 2 handed weapon to try it out, I recommend axe because axe is the highest damaging out of all 3.

From then on you want 25 SPR and after you get that, you can either continue END or start building STR.
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Building a character from scratch, you'd be looking for the best LEVELING alternative, and not PVP. That normally goes for every game you play out there, you're not looking for the most elitist build but the build that would get you up there fast so you'll be able to decide what you want.
After all, it's obvious that a level 100 with a pure INT build would beat a level 20 with the bestest build out there.
Romeo PvP are the most fun way in MMO after u get to a high level cuz leveling becomes so darn boring, and if u think DD fighters can't level fast than well, start researching more pal.

ALSO distributing your free stats isn't such a good idea, although there are some people that will go for 3 stats and work wonders, is better to pick just 2 and stick with those since the bonuses will be more noticeable.

Up until level 20 your build does NOT MATTER, after that u start going into the secrets of aoe etc, and that is when your build slowly starts making a difference .
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