Wikileaks

[Hraesvelg]

And quite honestly, do you really expect the government to tell you everything? I don't. Is that a wrong assumption? I don't know. But I realize that there are certain things that are probably best not shared with the general public (and the world at large).

That's because there is a large (albeit a minority) group of absolute retards (see: Tea Party in the US, there are other groups in other countries) out there that don't know how to do anything but fling poo. Most of the adults in the world would understand the necessity of that type of candid information.

If anyone is charged, it should be the person on the inside that provided the information, not Wikileaks. It IS on the same line as Bob Woodward asking for and getting sensitive/classified information from his contacts in DC (see: Watergate).

I've gotten through a few of the documents so far, but this ain't the Pentagon Papers. No real smoking guns here.

[Belaslav]

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable...9OTTAWA64.html

This a cable sent back in '09 from Embassy of Ottawa adressed to Obama just when he became President. A LOT of kissing ass here that made me giggle and somewhat ashamed as a Canadian resident.

[Ivramire]

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable...9OTTAWA64.html

This a cable sent back in '09 from Embassy of Ottawa adressed to Obama just when he became President. A LOT of kissing ass here that made me giggle and somewhat ashamed as a Canadian resident.

That cable was hilarious.


''Your enormous popularity among Canadians (an 81 pct
approval rating) is to Conservative Prime Minister Stephen
Harper both a blessing -- because he can for the first time
since taking office in 2006 gain politically from public and
policy association with the U.S. President''


''Your decision to make Ottawa your first foreign
destination as President will do much to diminish --
temporarily, at least -- Canada's habitual inferiority
complex vis-a-vis the U.S.''


''In your public remarks and media availability,
these points would be most useful from Mission Canada's
perspective:''

[Rightclaw]

No lies I guess, just stuff that is very embarrassing. I was listening to FOX and they mentioned something about Hilary Clinton trying to get credit card info, frequent flyer customer numbers, e-mail and telephone accounts. Couldn't help but bertstare.jpg at that.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...731587,00.html

he information to be collected included personal credit card information, frequent flyer customer numbers, as well as e-mail and telephone accounts. In many cases the State Department also requested "biometric information," "passwords" and "personal encryption keys." In the US, the term biometric information generally refers to fingerprints, passport photos and iris scans, among other things.

That just sounds crazy to me.

[MikeyG]

i have no opinion as of yet, so im going to play devils advocate.

Considering the fact that most of the documents in this last leak were about ambassadors, who we all know are full of shit anyways, doesnt that weaken any resolve for peaceful diplomacy?

Diplomacy does not exist. The goverment makes up the rules, if people
are not open to them, they put subliminal hinting or dissinformation in the media to convert the dumb ass masses to see their ways.

[Ralath]

This is just weird

achanth:
Mr Assange,
have there ever been documents forwarded to you which deal with the topic of UFOs or extraterrestrials?


Julian Assange:
Many weirdos email us about UFOs or how they discovered that they were the anti-christ whilst talking with their ex-wife at a garden party over a pot-plant. However, as yet they have not satisfied two of our publishing rules.
1) that the documents not be self-authored;
2) that they be original.
However, it is worth noting that in yet-to-be-published parts of the cablegate archive there are indeed references to UFOs.

omgg what a douche reply

JAnthony
Julian.
I am a former British diplomat. In the course of my former duties I helped to coordinate multilateral action against a brutal regime in the Balkans, impose sanctions on a renegade state threatening ethnic cleansing, and negotiate a debt relief programme for an impoverished nation. None of this would have been possible without the security and secrecy of diplomatic correspondence, and the protection of that correspondence from publication under the laws of the UK and many other liberal and democratic states. An embassy which cannot securely offer advice or pass messages back to London is an embassy which cannot operate. Diplomacy cannot operate without discretion and the
protection of sources. This applies to the UK and the UN as much as the US.
In publishing this massive volume of correspondence, Wikileaks is not highlighting specific cases of wrongdoing but undermining the entire process of diplomacy. If you can publish US cables then you can publish UK telegrams and UN emails.
My question to you is: why should we not hold you personally responsible when next an international crisis goes unresolved because diplomats cannot function.


Julian Assange:
If you trim the vast editorial letter to the singular question actually asked, I would be happy to give it my attention.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog...ange-wikileaks

[Triumph]

Ha. He actually pulled a tl;dr.

[Jikanu]

On 30 November 2010, Interpol placed Assange on its red notice list of wanted persons;[13] concomitantly, a European Arrest Warrant was issued for him.[14] He is wanted for questioning on suspicion of "sex crimes"; it is reported that while having consensual sex his condom broke and he either did not disclose the breakage to his partner or continued after his partner asked him to stop. He has not been formally charged with any crime.[15]

Sounds rather bullshit to me.

Also interesting:

On 5 December 2010, Mark Stephens told The Andrew Marr Show on the BBC, that Assange would fight attempts to take him to Sweden over the allegations[132] due to the possibility that it could lead to the Swedish handing him over to the US, where politicians have called for him to be executed.[133]

[Ralath]

This one makes me uneasy. :/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40526224...news-security/

[Rightclaw]

Seems like a real douche move on Wikileak's part. I don't see the point of releasing stuff like that.