Originally Posted by Jikanu
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1. I was referring to Lords and Peasants.
2. People on top never know what they're doing. Humanity gets to them. That's why communism failed. That's why capitalism has failed.
3. Socialism doesnt involve regimes for the most part. As for it failing, that's also untrue. There are still countries today that function as socialist, retaining all the freedoms of capitalism, such as canada and sweden.
Also, hitler was far from socialist. He called himself socialist to get the people's support, and then killed off all real socialists once he gained power.
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I guess we're at a cross since I'll never think socialism is a good idea. I don't see it as my moral obligation to have money stolen from me to be given to someone else so they can have health care/food/etc. Nor do I wish to be on the end of that benefit, because then I become the one who has stolen. Right now, my family isn't doing very well at all, but I still don't support the health care legislation, nor do I support programs like social security, or medicare even though I could be benefited by those programs right now. In a socialist system, government only exists to steal from one to give to another, for "the common good" as its called.