Ugh.

[MikeyG]

I've never heard of student or friend tutors that charge.


And then if thats your only problem, this whole thing should be fixed by a simple visit to the school counselor?

[Triumph]

Core material is standardized all the way up to multivariable calculus. You do not need a teacher until you hit mathematical logic, time series, advanced geometry, Bayesian inference, etc. And even at that point, a teacher helps, but if you spend time reading the textbook, you can learn it all easily.

"Learning styles" is subject to question. The brain is not wired so that it can only learn from one style. Repetition will always work. I guarantee if you sit there and read the book for 8 hours a day, you'll understand everything perfectly. Now, the problem is the 8 hour part.

Plus, it's not like they're asking you to solve a Millennium Prize problem...

[A_Forever]

I've never heard of student or friend tutors that charge.


And then if thats your only problem, this whole thing should be fixed by a simple visit to the school counselor?

I don't know anyone that would take time out of their schedule to tutor me for free. On anything. Lmao.

I don't really know anyone who is free to even do that.

Core material is standardized all the way up to multivariable calculus. You do not need a teacher until you hit mathematical logic, time series, advanced geometry, Bayesian inference, etc. And even at that point, a teacher helps, but if you spend time reading the textbook, you can learn it all easily.

"Learning styles" is subject to question. The brain is not wired so that it can only learn from one style. Repetition will always work. I guarantee if you sit there and read the book for 8 hours a day, you'll understand everything perfectly. Now, the problem is the 8 hour part.

Plus, it's not like they're asking you to solve a Millennium Prize problem...

This is how I am. I honestly can't change it. I struggle with math, always have and probably always will. The book actually doesn't help me. When we had a sub in my Adv Alg class for like a week, I got a low C to F on those 2-3 assignments because we were working out of the book. I didn't get anything and everyone else did.

When the teacher got back, he went over it all with us (He doesn't use the book) and just like that *snaps fingers*, I got it. I can't explain it and I can't really change how I think.

Also.. I scored a B on my midterm today. It took me all hour, up till the last minute(literally) to get it done. I had to rush at the end. I had notes too and I still scored a B. I had notes for chemistry and got over 100%. But oh no, I get a B for math even with notes.

Bombed my Geo test though.. with notes too..

[Hraesvelg]

Core material is standardized all the way up to multivariable calculus. You do not need a teacher until you hit mathematical logic, time series, advanced geometry, Bayesian inference, etc. And even at that point, a teacher helps, but if you spend time reading the textbook, you can learn it all easily.

"Learning styles" is subject to question. The brain is not wired so that it can only learn from one style. Repetition will always work. I guarantee if you sit there and read the book for 8 hours a day, you'll understand everything perfectly. Now, the problem is the 8 hour part.

Plus, it's not like they're asking you to solve a Millennium Prize problem...

Liz isn't wired like we are, Triumph. Some people really do need material presented in a certain way in order to really grasp the principles behind it. High school textbooks are terrible at conveying actual information. Hell, the fact that you think reading a textbook about Bayesian inference is enough to "easily" learn it shows you're not like most people. Stats is a pain in the ass to the vast majority of the population.

I can learn a lot from a book, and now with the internet the sky is the limit. I'm almost glad I didn't have this access in high school. I would have NEVER gotten laid were I reading wiki all day. Some people just can't work like that. They need to hear the words, ask questions, have material presented differently....

[Triumph]

Ah, I know that my post wasn't addressing her original point, and that we're going off on a tangent, but there's something that I must address:

Liz isn't wired like we are, Triumph. Some people really do need material presented in a certain way in order to really grasp the principles behind it.

I don't learn best from a textbook either. Asking questions doesn't cut it, classroom interaction doesn't make a marked effect. I, in fact, learn best when I teach the material to someone else.

Finding a willing subject to impart knowledge upon is rare, which is why I have to spend most of my time reading textbooks. This brings me to my original point; enough repetitive practice, however boring, will always work.

This will also explain my habit of running around answering questions.

However, I still remain unconvinced that others need "material presented in a certain way to really grasp the principles behind it." I've observed that regardless of learning style, people will nevertheless learn respectable amounts by textbook. Cramming is an example, where people retain information despite their preferred method of study. The "learning styles" concept (Kolb's model?) is now subject to increasing amounts of criticism.

Maybe it's the pressure to get the A or B. I'm not sure. But the only fault I note in my own argument is that my observations have been clustered around people who have all gone to prestigious private universities.

[Hraesvelg]

Maybe it's the pressure to get the A or B. I'm not sure. But the only fault I note in my own argument is that my observations have been clustered around people who have all gone to prestigious private universities.

I think we might have hit the nail on the head, here. In your ivory tower world, things work a little differently.

At least you don't seem to be an insufferable prat, which is my experience with those people who have gone to prestigious private universities.

[Triumph]

The school I attend actually has less academic elitism than others. I've visited some campuses where everyone thinks they're a divine descendant.

Pressure for good grades works in all academic institutions, you won't have people shooting for Fs.

And I'm more of the prat who likes to deflate egos. Some equate this to trolling, but there's a delicate difference.

[Ralath]

an divine descendant.

I really did have to fix this.

The more I thought about it the more uncomfortable I became.

[Phantom Badger]

I'm not sure how th UK curriculum in Maths differs from the US but I seem to grasp it pretty easily and attained an A* in my Module 1 Maths test, so if you really need help Liz I guess I could help :/