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Old 10-26-2009, 08:51 AM   #1
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You know wrong, I was never beat by an archer even close to my lvl. 80% of the time I could beat the 8x +9 archers and I was lvl 69... mage definetly was doing something wrong, probably using your guide to mages.
Erm, i dont know you lol.. my friend skylerz was an archer. and unless you are from EU fiesta you couldnt have been the mage he killed. finally, my guide doesnt lie unless you want to point out some skills that are not the cooldowns i said they were..

If you have an character called skylerz aswel, then sorry but this was in no way aimed at you.

Furthermore, maybe its cause of my bad english.. but you seem rather rude for someone who has nothing to do with the subject. you havent even given any archer tips. stay on the subject, or just dont comment.. if you wanna slag my guide.. do it inda mage section. i dont at anypoint remember saying that anyone HAS TO FOLLOW it. although i do know the cooldowns that were rare knowledge before are now widely known about which i hope is thanks to people sharing the information that was added to wiki. lol. goodday 2u sir

@ Zwivix. thank you so much, may i ask though, is the sp consumption really needed? i am a lover of farming bosses etc, i dont see myself ever running out of money to buy stones

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Old 10-26-2009, 02:35 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by MikeyG View Post
You know wrong, I was never beat by an archer even close to my lvl. 80% of the time I could beat the 8x +9 archers and I was lvl 69... mage definetly was doing something wrong, probably using your guide to mages.
Idk when was the last time you logged on, but somethings have changed. Archers and mages are pretty even in pvp now. Well if the archer is any good he will be able to take mages his level. That is of course before lv 100...after that mages are op in pvp.
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@ Zwivix. thank you so much, may i ask though, is the sp consumption really needed? i am a lover of farming bosses etc, i dont see myself ever running out of money to buy stones
For natures mist and piercing shot, yes. With the max cooldown you'll constantly cast them. It adds up quickly, but you dont have to follow that exactly. You can try it without the sp consumption, but my guess would be you'll have to restone pretty qyuickly each time to get more sp stones, and that will cut back on your farming time.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:43 PM   #3
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I never said anything about me being on EU fiesta...

but yeah Zwiv I'm talking back in the 89 cap.

Originally Posted by Sanastra View Post

Furthermore, maybe its cause of my bad english.. but you seem rather rude for someone who has nothing to do with the subject. you havent even given any archer tips. stay on the subject, or just dont comment.. if you wanna slag my guide.. do it inda mage section. i dont at anypoint remember saying that anyone HAS TO FOLLOW it. although i do know the cooldowns that were rare knowledge before are now widely known about which i hope is thanks to people sharing the information that was added to wiki. lol. goodday 2u sir
If I disagree with your thread I have every right to post my opinion on what you said.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:46 PM   #4
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If your refering to the Mage thread.. Dude, all I did was make a guide based on my experiences. I even asked others to correct me where I wasn't sure. If you disagreed with it. Why not say sumthing back then? You choose to do it now how many months later wen the guide is prettymuch outdated. I don't really understand what you was on about with the archer v Mage thing, I was simply saying what I saw. And that was a resetted ( not attributes spent) archer murder a Mage in 1v1 after much passing of arrows and spells..

It seems like you were basically saying I was lying as if you was actually there. Then to add to your randomness you be little a guide me and a couple friends spent a fair ammount of sc while making...
If you don't like it. Make your own lol. Zwiv has prettymuch answered my question, so I have no real reason to come back here unless someone makes an on the subject point instead of voicing there opinion on stuff far inda past..

I will try out the decrease sp consumption. I do get rather annoyed wen I have to go to restone early. If I find I don't like it. Ol purchase a stone erxtender
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:28 PM   #5
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The SP consumption really helps. Other than that Zwi pretty much covered everything.
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Originally Posted by Sanastra View Post
If your refering to the Mage thread.. Dude, all I did was make a guide based on my experiences. I even asked others to correct me where I wasn't sure. If you disagreed with it. Why not say sumthing back then? You choose to do it now how many months later wen the guide is prettymuch outdated. I don't really understand what you was on about with the archer v Mage thing, I was simply saying what I saw. And that was a resetted ( not attributes spent) archer murder a Mage in 1v1 after much passing of arrows and spells..

It seems like you were basically saying I was lying as if you was actually there. Then to add to your randomness you be little a guide me and a couple friends spent a fair ammount of sc while making...
If you don't like it. Make your own lol. Zwiv has prettymuch answered my question, so I have no real reason to come back here unless someone makes an on the subject point instead of voicing there opinion on stuff far inda past..

I will try out the decrease sp consumption. I do get rather annoyed wen I have to go to restone early. If I find I don't like it. Ol purchase a stone erxtender
Why do you keep bringing up the past? I'm talking about you saying archers pwn mages in THIS thread...
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:30 PM   #7
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o i see. sorry i didnt understand. i was simply explaining a case that i had seen. and also, after the stripe back the SC suite extenders etc.. the mage around 85ish usually has about 2.9-3.6k hp. and stone heals for 1080.. no where near enough to survive archers mainly poison's power/aimshots & crits.

Am not saying its automatically won.. obviously it depends on the player, we both have beaten archers our level after 8x.. but for us, its an effort (well of me anyway.. maybe u have a full +9 set). i jump into pvp kq. with my 3k hp, shoot some people. then suddenly find a stone fly towards me critting me for sumthing like 2088 damage. thats 2/3 of my hp gone in 1 powershot. i must then quickly stone find the archer, and apply stifle or fear depending on if i feel desperate. and blast them. b4 they used up the rest of there skills to kill me. i have decent sense of my surroundings.

nowthen last question for Zwiv. the difference indamage between bow and xbow.. if u was say helping with DD on helga. which would u use?
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To be honest I dont think any archer on Teva has tried to use a bow for dd on Helga. We all use xbow so I dont think I can tell you which one is better. I do know however that xbow has alot more damage than the bow....I just dont know if the bows' speed makes up for its lack of raw damage.

Although natures speed t4 makes an xbow have the speed of a bow...So idk. But i would go with xbow.
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Am not saying its automatically won.. obviously it depends on the player, we both have beaten archers our level after 8x.. but for us, its an effort (well of me anyway.. maybe u have a full +9 set). i
I had +9 helm and boots, and I beat 8x archers when cap was 89 and my mage never lvled past 69 :P
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