Bela - Page 3

**Hraesvelg** · 08-25-2009, 02:34 AM

Yeah, we've gone over that bit before. I don't think a single person's perspective can be trusted. There are too many known problems with using that as a base point. If someone insists they are Cleopatra, are their subjective experiences to be treated equally as someone else? At what point do you draw the line and say "NO MORE"?

**Hraesvelg** · 08-25-2009, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by Hessah

How your eyes works with your mind is not the 100% truth.

Thank you for illustrating my point. Once evidence is presented, studied, analyzed by many groups of people with rigorous methods, then I will accept it. I won't accept, merely on faith, someone's delusional idea that a Leprechaun lives in his hat just the same as I won't accept, on faith, that there is a supreme creator of the universe.

Jikanu · 08-25-2009, 02:37 AM

that's something that can solidly be disproved...

...is it just me, or are you trying to liken Religiousness to mental insanity? o_o

that was at your former comment.

Faith is important to me since it's something i can feel in my soul. it's something that's just there. it's impossible to explain or show you... but it's a good feeling. i hope you gain it someday. if not, then it's fine too, but it is quite... peaceful.

**Hraesvelg** · 08-25-2009, 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by Jikanu

that's something that can solidly be disproved...

...is it just me, or are you trying to liken Religiousness to mental insanity? o_o

I think the tendency for humans to have some sort of sense of the supernatural or spirituality is a result of the physiology of the brain and our ability to quickly make patterns. I think the sense of spirituality is a misfiring of that ability. We're seeing patterns where there are, in fact, none.

I wouldn't say it was insanity, but I do think it might be classified as a neurological disorder.

Jikanu · 08-25-2009, 03:00 AM

Once again, i disagree. Though perhaps trying to comprehend it is a result of neurology, i doubt that the whole experience is. the feeling of it all.

But i wont debate with you, because we both know this'll end up just going back and forth for months.

**secbro20** · 08-25-2009, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by Jikanu

Not true. They feel something more at work. Just because you dont feel the same thing doesnt make you automatically right. Just makes you different from them.

I don't wish to cause anymore of an arguement, but I agree with Hrae. Feelings should not be the thing you live your life by, and just because you "feel" something doesn't mean you should live your life by it. Life has to be lived rationally. Imagine if people lived their lives totally by what they "felt". Imagine if emotions and feelings ruled people's actions. That would be a world I'd be afraid to live in. It is the mind and thought that should, and usually does, rule how people act. Because if we were ruled by emotions, we would be nothing more than animals.

Reason is the key to life. It's what separates man from beast. Without it, we would still exist in the dark age, without electricity, science, reason, thought, and all the inventions and commodities that we take for granted everyday.

And I hate the arguement "for his their own". There is only one truth. There cannot be many truths. There is right, and there is wrong. There is black and there is white. There is no middle ground or gray area. Any combination of black and white or right and wrong is a contradiction of reality, and therefore makes no sense. And wouldn't gray be a mixture of what was wrong and right? So whatever you were doing or thinking or believing, would have a piece of wrongnesss/evil in it.

Jikanu · 08-25-2009, 04:43 AM

You need a balance between emotion and logic, not one or the other. If you stictly follow either one alone, you'll either be a robot or an animal. You need a balance. Trust your feelings, but try to make sense of them, is what im saying.

and im not saying there are multiple truths. im saying that there are multiple PERSPECTIVES to different religions. Maybe they're all looking at the same thing at a different angle.

You shouldnt live your life by merely emotion or reason. you should have a good mix of both.

**Hraesvelg** · 08-25-2009, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by Jikanu

You need a balance between emotion and logic, not one or the other. If you stictly follow either one alone, you'll either be a robot or an animal. You need a balance. Trust your feelings, but try to make sense of them, is what im saying.

and im not saying there are multiple truths. im saying that there are multiple PERSPECTIVES to different religions. Maybe they're all looking at the same thing at a different angle.

You shouldnt live your life by merely emotion or reason. you should have a good mix of both.

Or perhaps they are looking at reality and getting a skewed perspective due to parallax.

Jackaroo · 08-25-2009, 06:18 AM

my toe hurts i think it got like crushed today

**Blaaaaaaaah** · 08-25-2009, 06:23 AM

I just want to put in a reminder here that posts made against someone's religion for a discussion is allowed, but "making fun of them" when it is uncalled for is disrespectful. Personal insult or not, whether you say it to one person or to everyone, it's disrespectful and rude, end of story. Definitely not encouraged on the forums.