!!!!!!!Warning!!!!!!!!!!!

**Belaslav** · 07-19-2009, 02:36 AM

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You're joking, right? You downloaded something (especially porn!?!) off the internet and ran it like that without scanning first?!?!

Get the free "Hrae" Bundle: Avast, ThreatFire, and Spybot S&D. And maybe McAfee Site Advisor for the kicks.

**Hraesvelg** · 07-19-2009, 02:39 AM

I actually had some problems with Threatfire. It kept failing to respond after a while. You can't kill it without going to Herculean efforts (otherwise it would be ineffective), and I also couldn't start any more programs when it would freeze. I finally got rid of it. More trouble than it was worth.

**Belaslav** · 07-19-2009, 02:45 AM

Well, I've been using ever since you suggested it to me, and I had no problems so far (except for the false positives).

**Hraesvelg** · 07-19-2009, 03:34 AM

If it's working for you, more power to ya, heh. It was driving me up a wall.

**kirbysprite** · 07-19-2009, 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by Belaslav

Get the free "Hrae" Bundle: Avast, ThreatFire, and Spybot S&D. And maybe McAfee Site Advisor for the kicks.

I thought McAfee destroys anything it touches?

**Belaslav** · 07-20-2009, 03:03 AM

When it comes to antivirus, yes... But the site advisor basically pops up site descriptions next to links when using google search.

lamchopz · 07-20-2009, 03:23 AM

Here's a nice trick to check for keyloggers:

Quote:

1) Start >> Run >> 'CMD'
2) Type "netstat -ano" (without the quotations)
3) Look to the PID category
If it's 0 means none of programs is using that port
look at the port and at what it does e.g. Listening, Established
If it's listening and its more than 40,000 be 98% sure its a keylogger.

More sophisticated and laborious methods can be found here.

On a side note, it is a matter of opinion really: Spybot S&D is not as good as it used to be any more (you can ask this on any security forums like BleepingComputer, SpywareInfo, PCPitstop, etc.). If you use Firefox, the addon WoT would be a nice replacement for McAfee Site Advisor. As for ThreatFire, the latest test reveals that it fell short of expectations.

**Belaslav** · 07-20-2009, 05:25 AM

Meh, I still like my stuff cause it's free.

As for PID trick, Vista users can just use the services tab in the task manager.

lamchopz · 07-20-2009, 06:00 AM

hehe, don't get me wrong, I used to be a fan of Spybot and Ad-Aware as well. I've only come back to those security forums recently and found out that the new freeware they favour in place of the good old Spybot and Ad-Aware are: Malwarebytes Antimalware and SUPERAntispyware (both offer free versions).

Now here's the Fiesta related bit: For anti-keylogger protection, you need a good firewall with HIPS (listed in the maltousec website posted above). Your antivirus/antispyware aren't really the solution as commonly thought. A good firewall will alert you if a program tries to intercept keystrokes (typical behaviour of a keylogger), something an antivirus/antispyware cannot do. There are some antikeyloggers out there as well but they aren't free. In the end, it's your choice.

crazyplay · 07-28-2009, 03:42 AM

thanks, we should be careful too ...