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Old 10-26-2007, 05:42 AM   #1
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In defense of my statement, i'll refer to the fact that the archer steps up to tank only when a fighter is not present. The logic of this just follows that while can archer can be adept at tanking (high evasion, seems possible), they lack the defense/taunt that fighters have.

My assertion is not that archers are useless in parties. That would just be untrue. However, when putting together a successful party, archers are more so the "helpful to have, but optional" rather than "absolutely necessary".


My statements don't extend in the case of duos. I am referring to full parties, 4 or 5. In fact with a duo, you probably want just a cleric and a DPS, fighters will not fare well in these circumstances. I'm not sure of the archer vs. mage situation here, i've personally never had duo grind experience with either. It would seem that archers have the edge because of a higher durability.

Duo grinding with a fighter is actually not as bad as it seems, though still worse than with an archer/mage. The cleric in this scenario steps up to do some damage to compensate while the fighter can tank hits, and its not that bad.

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Old 11-20-2007, 02:57 PM   #2
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err.. I'm a lvl 19 full str archer, and I outdamage lvl 20+ mages... I keep pulling the aggro in the Mara KQ's. Instead of relying on criticals, I'd rather have a firm damage :D....
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:25 PM   #3
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:44 PM   #4
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In defense of my statement, i'll refer to the fact that the archer steps up to tank only when a fighter is not present. The logic of this just follows that while can archer can be adept at tanking (high evasion, seems possible), they lack the defense/taunt that fighters have.

My assertion is not that archers are useless in parties. That would just be untrue. However, when putting together a successful party, archers are more so the "helpful to have, but optional" rather than "absolutely necessary".


My statements don't extend in the case of duos. I am referring to full parties, 4 or 5. In fact with a duo, you probably want just a cleric and a DPS, fighters will not fare well in these circumstances. I'm not sure of the archer vs. mage situation here, i've personally never had duo grind experience with either. It would seem that archers have the edge because of a higher durability.

Duo grinding with a fighter is actually not as bad as it seems, though still worse than with an archer/mage. The cleric in this scenario steps up to do some damage to compensate while the fighter can tank hits, and its not that bad.
I'm a fighter and I have multiple cleric duo partners that constantly ask to party with me... At level 26 I can kill mobs in MT in around 5 hits provided I use powerhit once or twice. Build is 10 STR 20 END with 2 +7 END rings. We do better than most cleric/mage/mage parties.
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^ That's not going to be effective once you get to urugu / aew lol since you won't be able to even hit half the time =3
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^ That's not going to be effective once you get to urugu / aew lol since you won't be able to even hit half the time =3
Tier 2 Aim scrolls FTW? I'm mainly Shield/Sword anyways..Only using axe right now because I got a +6 green one in KQ.
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:48 PM   #7
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cool, but, might wanna leave fighter stuff to the fighter forum x3
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cool, but, might wanna leave fighter stuff to the fighter forum x3
Didn't even notice what forums this was in Dx I just use the "New Posts" feature.
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xD I've done that before too hehe x3
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