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Old 01-31-2009, 01:24 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Jikanu View Post
Im gonna go ahead and weigh in with my opinion here...

first, i'd like to state my position here. im against pot. im against all drugs. that includes alcohol, cigarettes, weed, etc, etc... it's shown throughout musical history that it's no good. Hendrix took too many sleeping pills, and i believe alcohol, and choked on his vomit. Kurt Cobain suffered massive depression because of heroine, and though i still doubt he killed himself, he was certainly on the verge of it. Elvis, (though i dont particularly care for his music) OD'd. Sid Vicious OD'd, i believe, and the life of his girlfriend Nancy is popularly believed to be extinguished by either drug dealers or a drug-crazed Sid. John Lennon didnt die because of drugs, but he nearly lost his wife because of alcohol abuse.
This, of course, ignores all of the contributions that drugs have made to the various creative processes to musicians, of course. Do you think we would have had Yellow Submarine without drugs? It's sort of a wash. Bill Hicks put it nicely (coarse language, be warned):

But this is not really the topic at hand. I'm not advocating for the legalization of ALL drugs, after all.

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Hrae, as for your last statement, the government IS in the business of keeping people from things that'll ruin their life. How are drug dealers who know the damaging effects of their drugs any different from murderers? how are tobacco industries, who know that their products kill people from the inside out, any better than people selling cyanide-laced donuts?
Because with alcohol, tobacco, and weed it is consensual. Donuts without the cyanide will kill you if you ingest enough of them...should they be rationed out for our own good? If we win a fight with Eurasia, will our chocolate rations go up?

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You may claim that it's a matter of freedom, if you wish, but what about teenagers, who are influenced heavily by their peers? do they have full freedom to choose, or are their choices forced by their "friends"?
Trust me, if a teenager wants to get weed, he or she can get weed now. Drug dealers don't check IDs.

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And don't claim i'm just some conservative republican who's got his head in the past. im an anarchist. i consider myself an independent, only due to the democratic views which disregard life for freedoms (i.e. abortion.)

I don't judge people for their choices. it's their life, not mine. but if they start pushing drugs, it's a matter of other people's personal freedoms. To some, peer pressure can override their own morals.
That sounds like a personality flaw, then. Why should my freedoms be abridged because some people lack self-control? Sometimes sex can be detrimental to public health. Should sex be regulated by the government as well? Should we ration donuts because someone can't stop eating them?

On a side note, I haven't brought political parties into this. Why? I'm for the most part a Republican, in the Goldwater vein. I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal. The neoconservative movement getting into bed with religion has brought the party to near ruin. There are some of us left that actually believe in personal responsibility. I suppose that's more of a topic for another thread...
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