Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah
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From a mage point of view, it is a pain in a butt to use HP stones. We can carry so little HP stones it's ridiculous.
1. Clerics would be less squishy, so if they had to use a stone, they can survive quite a few hits before they need to use a stone (assuming that the mobs are on similar-ish level, and not super strong/hard mobs).
2. Mages are squishy. Take a hit or two, we have to stone. No heal? Stone pot stone pot.
As a mage, I've used SO many hp pots and stones. We use up our hp stones a lot quicker. As a level 44 mage, I can only carry 52 hp stones. I'm pretty sure other classes of the same level can carry a lot more. Heck, I think my level 30 archer can actually carry more than 52 stones! I don't know why, but it sucks big time. Also, as you go into your 50s, I think you get to carry... 54 hp stones? Yay, 2 more? Ugh.
This is why I get so annoyed when clerics don't heal or they wait till you only have 10 hp left before they heal. I think that other classes do have the right to complain about pots/stones.
As a cleric, I personally don't mind giving up my stones. Usually, I don't even need to use HP pots. But, I've always played with my friends or in KQs, so I don't really mind sacrificing a bit.
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Ok I get what you mean. Thats true, mages will die a lot faster than clerics will, thats a proven fact(minus the mages that get +9 everything w/END/INT equipment
). I don't mind healing mages or other characters, its just you can't demand someone to do something. Also there is the problem of where clerics don't obtain as much money from drops since a lot of parties don't put it on sequential. The only money I obtain is really from either AOEing with a mage as a duo party or grinding by myself. Any other time they don't put it on sequential so every time we use a stone we are just wasting money since we aren't obtaining any(at least thats how it is for most parties I join).
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Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah
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I think this whole thing goes both way. Both classes need to be willing to sacrifice a bit. As a mage, I wouldn't mind stoning and potting if I'm getting hit really bad, since I know that I am squishy and the cleric may not heal fast enough/have other people to support. At the same time, a cleric must be willing to sacrifice their bits to keep the party alive.
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YES!!!!
thank you! because that is definitely true. There is a difference between sacrificing though and just spamming. A lot of people when they expect you to heal ONLY them and not yourself then you practically have to spam pots/stones. What you should do as a non-cleric is if you really want to only have him heal you then if he/she is getting attacked walk over there and take the enemies!!! A cleric shouldn't have to walk over to you, heal you, AND use pots on himself, just for you to take the enemies from him. I believe a lot of the people that complain about someone not healing refuse to use a stone/pot on themselves then blame it on the cleric when they die. Thats a really big issue right there.
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Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah
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I just find it really weird to heal myself over others if a stone or a pot can do the trick. Of course, if you're getting mobbed by heaps of things, then you should heal yourself too, but I don't like the idea of putting myself over others as a cleric.
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Well.......A cleric needs to put him/herself first though...because a cleric is vital for everyone to survive. The second the cleric dies you either have to 1. Use a ton of pots/stones to survive/kill the enemies or 2. Run away. Theres no other options because the cleric can't come back and heal you right away even if in a KQ.
What if
all the clerics went on strike and decided not to help anyone else except for other clerics then what!! haha
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