Bush knocked down the towers.

[Hraesvelg]

except for the few Iraqis

Iraqis? Involved with 9/11? Factcheck please.

[Yosei]

I still think it is fishy, that plane had to have flown at one heck of an angle and distance to be able to glide over the lawn without making contact. A distance way beyond the lamp posts. I'd imagine it would have done more damage beyond those. Especially at the speed in which it was going.

And Carmasa, just because we are "America", the land of the free, democracy, etc, it doesn't mean our government doesn't have corruption. Its just the way it is, in most governments. We're allowed to question our government.

[+Tequila+]

Hmm Alex Jones imo is just full of crap. His theories have been proving wrong over and over again. Sure like others have said the Bush Administration capitalized off 9/11 situation but it was not brought on by them. If there was as much evidence as is presented in Loose Change that 9/11 was a inside job. I'm sure someone else would have found it by now.Conspiracy theories are always interesting though.

As for Bush being a puppet. Bush was simply a fool elected by the American people. We*I mean those of voting age* did it and lol we should accept responsibility for something stupid we did. If he was a puppet lol he would have been alot better prepared. As for the next President being a puppet...unless you know something we don't. How can you say that?

[Carmasa]

I still think it is fishy, that plane had to have flown at one heck of an angle and distance to be able to glide over the lawn without making contact. A distance way beyond the lamp posts. I'd imagine it would have done more damage beyond those. Especially at the speed in which it was going.

And Carmasa, just because we are "America", the land of the free, democracy, etc, it doesn't mean our government doesn't have corruption. Its just the way it is, in most governments. We're allowed to question our government.

I know our government is in a alot of ways corrupt, it wants to be our mommy, so if we screw up, we have to "put a nickle in the jar".

I hate the government. @_@

Iraqis? Involved with 9/11? Factcheck please.

Sorry, wrong race, same general terrorism.

[Hraesvelg]

Sorry, wrong race, same general terrorism.

So, you're of the John McCain school of international diplomacy...all of them darkies is evil.

"It's common knowledge and has been reported in the media that Al-Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq. That's well known," the Vietnam war veteran said.

Pressed by reporters about his allegations, McCain said: "We continue to be concerned about the Iranians taking Al-Qaeda into Iran and training them and sending them back."

It was only after fellow Senator Joe Lieberman, who was traveling with him, whispered into his ear that McCain corrected himself.

"I am sorry, the Iranians are training extremists, not Al-Qaeda, not Al-Qaeda, I am sorry," McCain said.

Sunni, Shiite, its all the same, right?

[secbro20]

The idea that a Government would attack its own people in order to gain power is not something that is new. Governments throughout history has used disasters to create fear and panic in their countries to gain greater power and control over their populations. The Nazi party burned down the Richstag(the german government building) blaming it on the Jews/communists and calling it an act of terrorism. In order to "protect" the people of Germany, new laws were passed that obliterated freedoms and inflicted heavy punishments on those who refused to follow them. Also, in order to get people to favor a war with Poland, Germany took political prisoners to the Polish border, dressed them up like Polish soldiers and shot them dead. They took pictures and put them out into the press, saying that Poland had tried to invade Germany and that they must retaliate. And of course, the people jumped onto the war wagon, all because the Government lied in order to gain more.

It is not a coincidence that the US government had the Patriot act ready to sign DAYS later after 9/11. The US Patriot act is said to protect the people of the US. But has anyone actually read it? All it does is increase the powers of the government and SEVERELY limit the freedoms of the people of the US. Many similar documents like the Military Commissions Act of 2007 are even worse. That one completely destroys the rights of Habeus Corpus, which is one of the rights in the BIll of Rights. While these powers of the Patriot Act and others haven't been used to there fullest extent, all it would take is another act of "terrorism" in this country to push them to their full powers, completely wiping out the Bill of Rights.

Bush did not knock down the towers, but I think that elements of the US Government did. Nothing will ever change what I think.

The war in Iraq is exactly like the one that was fought in Vietnam. It is not being fought to be won. You cannot win when you cannot clearly say who the enemy is. When the enemy can be a woman carrying a grenade or a young boy with a machine gun, you cannot win. Its a guerrilla war. This war, along with Vietnam, is being fought to be maintained, to continue. To be prolonged as long as possible. The reasons why..... the involved the monetary powers of the US but most people wouldn't believe me.
"Its conspiracy"
"Its crazy"
"You're crazy."
Those are the reactions.

[Draven_25]

I love this country, don't get me wrong.
Take the 2 hours to watch loose change, it will open your eyes.
Bush wasn't elected, Gore was, but whose family has more money?
The War is blamed on Bush because he created it,. correction his father created it and lord forbid he upset daddy. I don't agree with micheal moore, he a lying, editting bas.. sorry got carried away.

I tottaly agree with you, Secbro, and 7 years and a few 100,000 deaths later we are still fighting? For what? Why?

[Spirit]

Question.



How did Bush create the war?

Did he hi-jack and fly two planes into the Twin Towers?

Did he hi-jack and fly a plane into the Pentagon?

Did he hi-jack another plane that was meant for the White House, but luckily because of some brave American citizen, crashed in a field before it made it to it's target?

Does he take children away from their parents at early ages and raise them to believe that in order to get to Heaven they have to kill themselves and a lot of other people that do not believe in the same god?

Seriously, how did either Bush create this war?

[secbro20]

Question.



How did Bush create the war?

Did he hi-jack and fly two planes into the Twin Towers?

Did he hi-jack and fly a plane into the Pentagon?

Did he hi-jack another plane that was meant for the White House, but luckily because of some brave American citizen, crashed in a field before it made it to it's target?

Does he take children away from their parents at early ages and raise them to believe that in order to get to Heaven they have to kill themselves and a lot of other people that do not believe in the same god?

Seriously, how did either Bush create this war?

I love this country, don't get me wrong.
Take the 2 hours to watch loose change, it will open your eyes.
Bush wasn't elected, Gore was, but whose family has more money?
The War is blamed on Bush because he created it,. correction his father created it and lord forbid he upset daddy. I don't agree with micheal moore, he a lying, editting bas.. sorry got carried away.

I tottaly agree with you, Secbro, and 7 years and a few 100,000 deaths later we are still fighting? For what? Why?

No, Bust did none of those things. Anyone that says Bush pulled all the strings and did everything himself doesn't understand. Anyone that says one man can act alone and do everything that has been done is crazy. The kind of people who blame bush for what happened on 9/11 are the kind that blame him for the problems in the economy, problems in health care, problems in debt, problems in unemployment, all of which he has no influence in and has no constitutional jurisdiction anyway, but what does the constitution mean anyone, "Its just a god damn piece of paper."


All that I said in my above post, I meant 100%. I DID NOT only mean Bush. When I referred to the government, I was not just referring to Bush. I was more talking about hidden aspects of the government, but that is considered conspiracy and talking about it is a waste of time since 90% of people will just think I'm crazy.