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Old 06-22-2008, 12:31 PM   #11
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True... it should be easier than pre-patch...

i guess it all depends on circmstances...

I was picturing a party with 2 mages dying like hell... you've got a fighter runner on the other side of the map with a massive train...

do u try stay and heal the mages to keep them alive so they can kill the vivis.. or ditch them and go heal the runner?!

there's only so much a cleric can do...

and not everyone is a godly cleric like you who can multi-task so well XD

in fact... new clerics cant seem to do their own job properly nowadays.. let along ask them to multi-task LOL
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:01 PM   #12
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if you know you are gonna fail, just go commit suicide and get out of the KQ rather than waste time.
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:05 PM   #13
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That is the reason I solo. There are too many Clerics nowadays who should have been Fighters. The patch improved Clerics but it obviously did nothing to the heads of wanna-be Fighters.

It's pretty hectic in Spider KQ too. Epith is full of Fighters and never enough Clerics. Then there's also the so-alled Mage tanks who obviously can't tank KQs and are trigger happy. Several times I was stuck with a Cleric who couldn't heal worth ----. Yes, I'm the only one taking damage in the party... Heal would be nice. -waves frantically-

And people want GS cause of the new quests but the other Fighters don't Mock the little baby spiders that pop out. So it all goes to the Mages and then the Clerics and... massacre. I'm having to pull a Robo run just so people can stay somewhat alive... and of course, no heals. -throws spare Axe at not so smart people-
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:21 PM   #14
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Mage tanks fail without cleric, and most epith cleric can't heal at all, which means mage tanks fail no matter what in Epith.
And most fighters in Epith can't do anything, they dont take aggro, therefore leaving me spamming stones and pots when in party to tank in KQs. Then I say "why is the mage tanking?" then I get kicked out of the party. Which is wtf..just don't even play a fighter if you don't fight/tank or you are too scared to fight or tank(a lot of fighters are like that). Don't even play a cleric if you are not going to support your teammate by healing them when their HP is hella low. Don't even play a mage if you try to tank and blame others when you die for being a mage tank.
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Old 06-22-2008, 07:11 PM   #15
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viasta should... -coughgetto60cough-

But either way I can't tank without a good Cleric and my Mock fails against chain-cast Nova/Inferno.
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Old 06-22-2008, 07:27 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Hessah View Post
We use to have threads about people shouldnt yell at clerics for heal, we're already doing the best we can.. sometimes we just cant heal EVERYONE...

but looks like clerics nowadays needs to be shouted at!!!!! toooooooo many clerics rather fight than to look at anyone else's HP...

@superalim... As a cleric, I can tell you it takes a godly cleric to heal the runner... if everything's a mess, mobs running everywhere, killing everyone, generally a cleric is either too busy trying to heal a party member near themselves... or just keep themselves alive... as runner is constantly on the go... a cleric will have to stop healing everyone else and only chase after the runner... and that doesnt usually happen unless things are under control...
(there's a limit to our casting range )
Like i said hessah not all clerics are to blame there are great clerics out there and obv the best of cleric cant be the life saver of everyone but if they all worked together well i just think kq's would be that much more of a breeze =]
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if you know you are gonna fail, just go commit suicide and get out of the KQ rather than waste time.
-i'm not directing the following at viasta, just generally the people that says the same thing-

it's people with that mindset that causes some potentially-winning-abled KQ to fail... i hate it when people go "OMG 1 cleric.. fail fail... /suicide"

HELLO! there's a thing called HP POTS and STONES! especially with lower lvl KQs, you have more chance of staying alive if you dont rely on clerics to keep you alive

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That is the reason I solo. There are too many Clerics nowadays who should have been Fighters. The patch improved Clerics but it obviously did nothing to the heads of wanna-be Fighters.

It's pretty hectic in Spider KQ too. Epith is full of Fighters and never enough Clerics. Then there's also the so-alled Mage tanks who obviously can't tank KQs and are trigger happy. Several times I was stuck with a Cleric who couldn't heal worth ----. Yes, I'm the only one taking damage in the party... Heal would be nice. -waves frantically-

And people want GS cause of the new quests but the other Fighters don't Mock the little baby spiders that pop out. So it all goes to the Mages and then the Clerics and... massacre. I'm having to pull a Robo run just so people can stay somewhat alive... and of course, no heals. -throws spare Axe at not so smart people-
Yeah with GS kills, i think people will have to run most of the time.. the amount of babies spawning is faster than people killing it... it takes a fighter with LOTS of defence and HP to tank all the babies..

i hvnt met a fighter that is tanking babies comfortably... all i remember is frantically trying to spam heal on everyone LOL! (and that in turn draws aggro to me and i end up running)

I got my GS kill when I selfishly ignored my party members (two fighters that were running but alive)... all the babies went off chasing ppl around the room instead of me that's right next to it LOL!

but but.. now that i got my kill... from now on i'll be a good cleric again and run around and heal ppl instead
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