Event Horizon

[Valentines]

Well it isn't fun when a lvl 1 get's something it took you days to get D:

If that's sarcasm lol

[Blaaaaaaaah]

But then again, I guess GMs would have to give out some valuable prizes from the events, or else no one would bother going and that would make them look pretty sad. Of course, I'm not saying they should drop pets everywhere in Open Beta, but there should be one or two events with nice expensive prizes for a few people (not the whole community).

I'm wondering if they're going to make pets a cash shop thing though? Because if they are, they will probably not drop CS stuff everywhere and giving them out like there's no tomorrow anyway, haha!

[+Tequila+]

OMG someone agreed with me and thought i said something INTELLIGENT!!!
In your Face EVERYONE in Oblivion.


Anyway theirs OBVIOUSLY going to wipe closed beta. Open beta will have events but i doubt they won't occur daily like before. The rewards also will also most likely NOT BE mass treasure box spamming. They'll be alot more careful.

There also will NEVER BE AGAIN a 5x rate event with Treasurebox rain

lol says who?? I guarantee I talk to the gms way more then you do and they have never mentioned anything like this. Besides that treasure box event didnt last the whole 7 hrs they only spwned constantly for maybe the first 1 hr or so. As for the mass treasure box spamming theres nothing wrong with it. The economy is ALREADY terrible an seriously needs some items to be onthe market like unique armors/ weapons etc etc since the drop rate is bad for now the only way that this can happen is through the events.

I started to write this in response to what rokaraged said in this thread when asked the value of something. I thought it was a little too off the OP's topic though so I made a new thread.




I agree and I actually really hope they don't plan on doing these events like this once the game goes public; or at least not to such a degree. I always assumed it was just a beta thing. They're fun and all but I would rather have a functioning economy in the long run.

Any of you GM groupies know what they're planning for events in OB and beyond?

I wouldn't want them to completely do away with all the events because they can be fun to participate in. I do think, though, that the rewards will need to be seriously reduced because they're basically flooding the world with free money outta nowhere which completely destabilizes the economy.

The economy was/is shitty to began with so events actually puttin money into the game is not bad a thing. Like I've said since the drop rate is terrible as coppers an silver DONT drop from mobs. This is the only way they can help move the economy along. Even though a former GM whos name doesnt need to be mentioned handed out Gold to certain people which jus farther helped to make the economy fail along with the influx of CB2 testers pricing items at extremely high prices. Dont worry about the events the economy will stabilize in time.

[Pritcher]

I think the economy will ultimately stabilize either way. No matter how odd and unnecessarily complicated it ends up, game economies always seem to find their own strange balances.

I know the events stimulate the economy, I'm just saying I don't think it's the best way to go about doing that. It's like an adrenaline shot in the heart rather than subtle stimulation and steady growth. I don't really think its the best foundation for the economy. Too unpredictable and too unstable. If it's a matter of poor drops then fix that, don't just compensate by handing out free money. That's like putting on deodorant to cover up your stink instead of taking a shower.

Basically, a few people make a lot in a short amount of time. When people make so much money in so little time they spend it recklessly and that causes inflation. People charge such high prices for things because people still buy them and those people can afford to buy them at ridiculously high prices because they've just gotten so much silver from events.

And then as the fortunes made by a few during the events, and the few who jacked up the prices for a while right after filter out into the economy, prices drop to a more reasonable rate and things settle down and then BAM! new event and its all over the place again and nobody whats worth what and people just guess and other people just go by their guesses and its a big ass mess. It's messing with the natural progression.

[Lyoven]

The economy was/is shitty to began with so events actually puttin money into the game is not bad a thing. Like I've said since the drop rate is terrible as coppers an silver DONT drop from mobs.

pumping money into the system wont stabilize it. time will.
the droprates are the same for everyone. events arent. which one might hurt the stability?

I think the economy will ultimately stabilize either way. No matter how odd and unnecessarily complicated it ends up, game economies always seem to find their own strange balances.

true, true. if its left in peace for a while, it will stabilize

anyhow. CB economy doesnt really matters (wipe).
events are great so i hope we will see some in open beta as well. really enjoyed some of them.

[Ash]

In pretty much any game, there's always going to be someone who has an advantage over you, unless you're the sort of person who gets into all the closed betas and you have the time to learn about all the mechanics in the game.
About the events, I guess they won't be held so often once OB is out anyway, so it shouldn't matter much.

[rokaraged]

Dont worry about the events the economy will stabilize in time.

Stabilize? Do you really know how long thats going to take?...even with more upcoming events?.. The money gap between alot of people is pretty HUGE. I agree the drop rates are s**t but its the base of the whole economy where the economy starts off from. People who have gold pieces now would not have been able to have one without events/gm intervention which leaves the people who could not come to the events in the dust...economically wise.

You say the gms are helping the economy? All they've done is give out really is throw excess silvers thats it. Theres alot of people who have 500s silvers and have NOTHING to spend it on except on production skill training. Once more rares spawn and start entering the economy inflation is going to hit HARD. Its already taken a turn...
Example : Before the 5x event blessed elrues t2 i would pay at most 2silvers a piece..now i hardly find any at 6silvers.

Lets face it, in order to make a living in closed beta fiesta, you don't have to pick up drop or sell fancy rares, you just have to farm gm Events until inflation makes the money gotten from there worthless too. If there ever is a treasurebox rain event again i hope not...

The events are not only killing the economy, but also making thier jobs harder. Events are made for fun not for profit. I feel sad for them because whenever they do a dark forces event, theres also a few bumbling idiots screaming "OMGZ TIS EVENT SUX NO TREASURE BOXEZ."

This isn't the first time they did treasure rain. A few days before the event they did an unannounced treasure rain again in elderine...


And for the record: the gms have left hints to wiping.

[Dynamics]

I'd just like to ask how a server wipe could really benefit the economy? I suppose it's just an attachment to my character creating bias, but I feel completely wiping an unstable economy won't fix it at all. Like many have said before me, it'll just take time for the sudden economy fluxes to settle down. I don't think there is any other resolution other then to wait and hope that the GM's don't fluctuate the economy again.

On another note, restarting my character with a few hundred others ksing my slimes has next to zero appeal .___.

[Pritcher]

Well a wipe would just clear all the clutter out and let it start fresh and hopefully build itself up at a natural rate. As far as the wipe goes, I'm 99% sure it's going to happen. I think I remember Kezzerdrix posting that pretty clearly once, but I'm not going to bother looking for the post. Could be wrong, but most (all?) games wipe after closed beta.

[Dynamics]

A wipe would be such a shame, I've grown quite fond of my archer, and I'm sure many others have attachments to their own characters too. I feel it'd be the better choice to leave Teva as it is and open Apoline in mark of the Open Beta (of which both would receive equal access). Besides, even if the GM's were to wipe the economy, who's to say they won't inadvertently screw it all up again? The GM's are active on the servers, but they're hardly aware of the economic imbalances they've created.

Oh well, I suppose we have no choice but to wait until more reliable sources come about.