Okay, this is what I do not understand

**Spirit** · 04-15-2008, 03:26 PM

This is not directed at anyone person or any one guild. Please do not turn it into that. Also, this is not a Rage thread, it is a serious discussion and not an Outspark bashing thread. Please respect that.

Here is what I do not understand and have never understood. All people want to do is grind grind grind their way to the top and reach the level cap. Then they have nothing to do and say that the game is boring. Why??? What was the big rush about to get to the top.
I have just now reached level 59 (the first level cap) and they will release a new level cap, well before I hit the level cap of 79. The game has yet to get boring for me. I have always said that I do not understand the rush to level as fast as possible, that you miss too many other things. Now, a lot of people are saying that they are bored and their is nothing new. Yet, everyday I play, I find something new. There are still maps that I have not been to yet and I get a chance to meet all types of people because I am not so high that only a few people can party with me.
So, is it really worth it to be the first group to the top?

**Loveless** · 04-15-2008, 04:00 PM

Oh yeah, 59 was the first level cap! Lol I forgot about that. When I reached 59 it was like... so do I get something out of it? Nope, just another 3 million exp to grind through.

I do not understand the reason either. I guess when the Legends of Isya was on... it was a reason for people to get to 79 but the reward wasn't all that great for the work (and money for some) that people put into getting there. It was not like new maps or content was released shortly after for those who reached it to grind in or explore. In the end they're stuck leveling with all those other people trying to get there asap in FoS/AEW. Or quitting altogether because there's "nothing new".

There's nothing to gain out of leveling so fast. Bragging rights? People think you have no life when you get to 60-70 in a week or two. So much for that huh. But it's not going to happen when you tell people to slow down and look around for once. Probably why we've got Clerics who doesn't know what Heal is and Fighters without even Snearing Kick.

**O-mie** · 04-15-2008, 04:21 PM

As of right now, there's bo REAL urgency (Unless you enjoy pvp a lot) but a lot people play this game TO grind, the grindwhores I know from other games said they liked to grind because it relieved stress, some felt incomplete unless they were capped, etc.

I wouldn't always say "to be popular" since not all capped people flaunt themselves. When guildwars and stuff actually matter more I"m sure a lot will grind for that purpose. It really just varies depending on the person, but I'm sure some people have done it for their e-peen length.

Azling · 04-15-2008, 04:43 PM

I Agree With Spirit and Loveless

**Hyper** · 04-15-2008, 05:37 PM

New equips? Thais all I care about... (And titles. ^o^)

**Spirit** · 04-15-2008, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by hyperswoss

New equips? Thais all I care about... (And titles. ^o^)

But, truth be told that has nothing to do with rushing to meet the level cap. The level 60 and 70s for a long time could only get the white equips (woohoo), because the greens only recently started dropping. So, I personally do not think that the equip had anything to do with it. And even if it did, what would be the point of rushing to 79 after you reached 70, you still have to sit and wait for the level cap to be raised and you still get bored, and you still leave the game.

**Yosei** · 04-15-2008, 05:44 PM

I never got it either. It varies per person.
It could be..
1. Rush to see new zones, KQs, equips, etc.
2. Cap=Top=Best=Elite(which isn't true)
3. They just play a lot.
4. In some peoples cases, Legends of Isya.

I find it funny that a bunch of Teva's "legends" quit soon after capping.

Its like they assume theres glory at cap. But once they cap... they realize its actually kind of boring. Thus, they quit o.O

**Spirit** · 04-15-2008, 09:41 PM

The thing is you can still cap and find other things to do. StarLeona is capped, if I am not mistaken, and she does not complain about how boring the game is and how she wants to quit or how she is quiting. Instead, she is working on other things and even trying to recruit more people into her guild. Sheya is another one that has leveled that went and created other characters on other servers. Yes, there are still things to do after you cap. But, if your main concern is get to the top-get to the top-get to the top-boo Fiesta sux it is boring and there is nothing to do, then why not slow it down and level a little slower so that you do not have to wait so long for another update?

And at Triumph, (not meaning this in a negative way by no means, but it may come out like that, so I gotta warn ya, it is just bad wording if it does), you say that people will feel the effects if you are not a trialblazer. What effects should I be feeling because I am not capped? I still get to have fun, I have no pressure from trying to be one of the top players, I get to hang with all my guildies, higher level and lower level, and there is still plenty that I have not yet experienced in-game, making me want to continue to play and discover the new things. So, what kind of effects are you referring to?

**Triumph** · 04-15-2008, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Spirit

And at Triumph, (not meaning this in a negative way by no means, but it may come out like that, so I gotta warn ya, it is just bad wording if it does), you say that people will feel the effects if you are not a trialblazer. What effects should I be feeling because I am not capped? I still get to have fun, I have no pressure from trying to be one of the top players, I get to hang with all my guildies, higher level and lower level, and there is still plenty that I have not yet experienced in-game, making me want to continue to play and discover the new things. So, what kind of effects are you referring to?

I had some difficulty with attempting KQ's with competent individuals. Granted, the effects are reduced as you get up higher, but as lvramire has stated: He experienced Mini-Dragon KQ success rates dropped to 50% from 90%.

Also, you will find that vendors catering to your level group will begin to diminish. If you look around for green items...level 20-30 greens are scarce; level 40-50 greens exist, but are hard to find; level 50-60 greens are common, and level 70 greens are incredibly common.

**Spirit** · 04-15-2008, 09:52 PM

good points, but I am a level 59.57 (lol) and I have already had several green staffs drop to me to the point, that I selected the best one and sold the others. So, my level 70 green staff is in storage for when I finally hit there. So, wouldn't the weapons also be dropping to other people has they move into the appropriate maps?

Hmm... about the KQs, I do not do a whole lot of those, but the ones that I have gone in are pretty good. I succeed about 85% of the time, but that seems to be the norm no matter what level of my characters I am on. My mage is in MDs right now, My Fighter just left Robos and can do MDs but I wanna get her a little higher and my cleric is in Gold Hills. I seemed to get a good group of people with almost every one. Maybe I have just been lucky so far.