[Hraesvelg]

I guess we're at a cross since I'll never think socialism is a good idea. I don't see it as my moral obligation to have money stolen from me to be given to someone else so they can have health care/food/etc. Nor do I wish to be on the end of that benefit, because then I become the one who has stolen. Right now, my family isn't doing very well at all, but I still don't support the health care legislation, nor do I support programs like social security, or medicare even though I could be benefited by those programs right now. In a socialist system, government only exists to steal from one to give to another, for "the common good" as its called.

Surely you can see the benefit to society for having some sort of social safety net for those unable to care for themselves, mainly the sick and elderly.