Talk:Archer Skills

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Why is this soon to be deleted?
:Detailed, not deleted.
::Is it being deleted???
:::The page is ''not'' being deleted. The previous comment comes too late. The word had already been changed. Now I've removed that statement in entirety. [[User:Icy|Icy]] 18:03, 22 June 2008 (CDT)

Archer Skills

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Talk:Mage Skills

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==Categorization==

Will proceed with classifying active spells into the following:

Damage Dealing Spells (Short Cool Down)
- with at least 1 level that has a cool down of 5 or less seconds

Damage Dealing Spells (Long Cool Down)
- all levels have cool down of over 5 seconds

Utility Spells

- Grexx 08:46, 27 November 2007 (CST)

Mage Skills

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Mage Skills

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Talk:Mage Skills

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Cleric Skills

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Talk:Cleric Skills

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Should use the same tables like the ones in guild wars wiki
==Revamp==
Anyone mind if I revamp this page, like how I did [[Fighter Skills]] and [[Archer Skills]]? I'll get around to second class skills as well as saving points to test empowerment some time later.

==Updating==
Updating the spell empowerments while levelling. However there will be gaps for lower level empowerments for higher level spells as I slowly empower while retaining 5 skill points at most.
 P.S.: I like the current layout, but still feels like it can be further improved. At the moment it feels kinda hard to read. Anyone good with editing pages, please do improve the layout if you have the time.
 P.P.S: Thinking of classifying skills according to the following categories
 
*Healing
*Damage Dealing
*Buffs
*Miscellaneous
- Grexx / Avelyn
 
 
I think the empowerments would look better if it's done like the first couple on [[Mage Skills]] or [[Archer Skills]]. I'll get around to it when I can, but making all the individual tables takes so long. Categorization sounds good. Great job with the information. [[User:HeatBurst|HeatBurst]] 19:28, 9 November 2007 (CST)
 
 
Personally I find that detaching the original un-empowered skill data isn't a good idea, like as done on the mage and archer skills. However the empowerments themselves (+1,+2..+5) could probably do with seperation + original skill data, similar to mage and archer skills, which is nice and clear. Since most players will not empower every aspect of a particular skill, it will present the data in a way that's easy to read.

I will proceed with categorizing the various skills into subcategories as I had listed earlier.

- Grexx / Avelyn 07:39, 14 November 2007 (CST)

Active skills have been categorized

- Grexx / Avelyn 14:01, 22 November 2007 (CST)

I updated Hammer Mastery

- oOAnubisOo based on total damage figure increase before and after skill upgrade. Before 1003-1019, After 1010-1026

==Format==
The formatting is technically irrelevant. Just make sure that whatever format is used is consistent for the other three sections as well. [[User:Triumph|Triumph]] [[User talk:Triumph|Talk]]

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I've done up 4 sample layouts and would like some feedback on which should be adopted for all the class skills (or to remain the same). As it stands right now, the formatting for the various class skills is somewhat varied. Realized that its quite hard to explain in words what they would look like, so what better way than to take a look at a model of the actual results! Please add any comments at the bottom instead of modifying the samples. Feel free to add additional versions.

Sample Stoneskin empowerment layout:
 '''Base Skill Values'''
 
{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
! Skill Lvl !! Req. Lvl !! Cost !! SP Use !! Percent !! Duration !! Cast Time !! Distance !! Cool Time
|-
! [01]
| 37 || 14s || 117 || 1% || 60 min || Immediate|| 1.5 m || 3.0 sec
|-
! [02]
| 51 || 26s || 168 || 2% || 60 min || Immediate || 1.5 m || 3.0 sec
|}
 

'''Version 1''' - original layout
 
{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
|+ '''Empowerment'''
! || colspan="3" | +1 || colspan="3" | +2 || colspan="3" | +3 ||colspan="3" | +4 ||colspan="3" | +5
|-
! Skill Lvl || SP || Duration || Cool Down || SP || Duration || Cool Down || SP || Duration || Cool Down || SP || Duration || Cool Down || SP || Duration || Cool Down
|-
![01]
| -23 || +0.8 sec || -0.2 sec || -29 || +0.9 sec || -0.3 sec || -35 || +1.1 sec || -0.5 sec || -46 || +1.2 sec || -0.6 sec || -58 || +1.5 sec || -0.9 sec
|-
![02]
| -33 || +0.8 sec || -0.2 sec || - || +0.9 sec || -0.3 sec || - || +1.1 sec || -0.5 sec || - || +1.2 sec || -0.6 sec || -84 || +1.5 sec || -0.9 sec
|}
 

'''Version 2''', 1 table, 3 main columns - Version 1 reorganized into the various empowerments
 
{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
|+ '''Empowerment'''
! || colspan="5" | SP || colspan="5" | Duration || colspan="5" | Cool Down
|-
! Skill Lvl || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5
|-
![01]
| -23 || -29 || -35 || -46 || -58 || +0.8 sec || +0.9 sec || +1.1 sec || +1.2 sec || +1.5 sec || -0.2 sec || -0.3 sec || -0.5 sec || -0.6 sec || -0.9 sec
|-
![02]
| -33 || - || - || - || -84 || +0.8 sec || +0.9 sec || +1.1 sec || +1.2 sec || +1.5 sec || -0.2 sec || -0.3 sec || -0.5 sec || -0.6 sec || -0.9 sec
|}
 

'''Version 2.1''', 1 table, 3 main columns - Version 1 reorganized into the various empowerments + added blank space in between
 
{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
|+ '''Empowerment'''
! || colspan="5" | SP ||   || colspan="5" | Duration ||   || colspan="5" | Cool Down
|-
! Skill Lvl || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 ||   || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 ||   || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5
|-
![01]
| -23 || -29 || -35 || -46 || -58 ||   || +0.8 sec || +0.9 sec || +1.1 sec || +1.2 sec || +1.5 sec ||   || -0.2 sec || -0.3 sec || -0.5 sec || -0.6 sec || -0.9 sec
|-
![02]
| -33 || - || - || - || -84 ||   || +0.8 sec || +0.9 sec || +1.1 sec || +1.2 sec || +1.5 sec ||   || -0.2 sec || -0.3 sec || -0.5 sec || -0.6 sec || -0.9 sec
|}
 

'''Version 3''', 1 table, 3 main columns + base values
 
{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
|+ '''Empowerment'''
! || colspan="6" | SP || colspan="6" | Duration || colspan="6" | Cool Down
|-
! Skill Lvl || Base || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 || Base || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 || Base || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5
|-
![01]
| 117 || -23 || -29 || -35 || -46 || -58 || 60 min || +0.8 sec || +0.9 sec || +1.1 sec || +1.2 sec || +1.5 sec || 3.0 sec || -0.2 sec || -0.3 sec || -0.5 sec || -0.6 sec || -0.9 sec
|-
![02]
| 168 || -33 || - || - || - || -84 || 60 min || +0.8 sec || +0.9 sec || +1.1 sec || +1.2 sec || +1.5 sec || 3.0 sec || -0.2 sec || -0.3 sec || -0.5 sec || -0.6 sec || -0.9 sec
|}
 

'''Version 3.1''', 1 table, 3 main columns + base values + added blank space in between
 
{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
|+ '''Empowerment'''
! || colspan="6" | SP ||   || colspan="6" | Duration ||   || colspan="6" | Cool Down
|-
! Skill Lvl || Base || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 ||   || Base || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 ||   || Base || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5
|-
![01]
| 117 || -23 || -29 || -35 || -46 || -58 ||   || 60 min || +0.8 sec || +0.9 sec || +1.1 sec || +1.2 sec || +1.5 sec ||   || 3.0 sec || -0.2 sec || -0.3 sec || -0.5 sec || -0.6 sec || -0.9 sec
|-
![02]
| 168 || -33 || - || - || - || -84 ||   || 60 min || +0.8 sec || +0.9 sec || +1.1 sec || +1.2 sec || +1.5 sec ||   || 3.0 sec || -0.2 sec || -0.3 sec || -0.5 sec || -0.6 sec || -0.9 sec
|}
 

'''Version 4''', 3 tables + base values
 
{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
|+ '''SP Empowerment'''
! Skill Lvl || Base || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5
|-
![01]
| 117 || -23 || -29 || -35 || -46 || -58
|-
![02]
| 168 || -33 || - || - || - || -84
|}
 
{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
|+ '''Duration Empowerment'''
|-
! Skill Lvl || Base || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5
|-
![01]
| 60 min || +0.8 sec || +0.9 sec || +1.1 sec || +1.2 sec || +1.5 sec
|-
![02]
| 60 min || +0.8 sec || +0.9 sec || +1.1 sec || +1.2 sec || +1.5 sec
|}
 
{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
|+ '''Cool Down Empowerment'''
|-
! Skill Lvl || Base || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5
|-
![01]
| 3.0 sec || -0.2 sec || -0.3 sec || -0.5 sec || -0.6 sec || -0.9 sec
|-
![02]
| 3.0 sec || -0.2 sec || -0.3 sec || -0.5 sec || -0.6 sec || -0.9 sec
|}
 

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Comments:

Basically all the other layouts put emphasis on the empowerment types, rather than empowerment levels in the original. I believe that HeatBurst is currently implementing Version 4 across the Mage and Archer skills, additionally removing empowered skill values from Base Skill Values. One disadvantage of this is that while it looks clear for skills that only have 1 or 2 levels, when it stretches up to 8 or 10 levels (and possibly more when cap is lifted), it gets hard to read as takes up more vertical space, ie [[Mage_Skills#Ice_Bolt|Ice Bolt]] compared to [[Cleric_Skills#Bash|Bash]].

Personally, I find version 2 to be the simplest to implement and still quite straightforward. If not, version 3 or 3.1 will present it even more clearly, but it will take a bit more work to do up. I'll wait about 2 weeks or so for further replies before I start readjusting the layout. Its actually quite easy implement, just copy and paste the current tables, and delete unwanted data. Beats retyping everything.

- Grexx 14:42, 25 November 2007 (CST)

== Heal ==

when you enter your skill points in Dmg in heal it gets more healing done. [[User:Zikil|Zikil]] 00:58, 28 August 2008 (CDT)

Fighter Skills

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Fighter Skills

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Talk:Fighter Skills

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notalther -- do the passive skills do ANYTHING at all?
i cant see a difference except in my wallet.
* They do, but it's very subtle. As such, most people go without them unless they're overflowing with cash and have already gotten other necessities (Active skills, equipment). Though, it would be incredibly helpful if the game actually said exactly what they did. [[User:HeatBurst|HeatBurst]] 15:10, 30 October 2007 (CDT)

* Masteries should give additional damage to that particular skill, while bravery is probably an increase in one of the main stats (str or end?) and additional damage. You can just take a look at other classes for a general idea of what it can boost. Grexx - 08:58, 3 January 2008 (CST)

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