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Clarica: /* Cities? */

2009-05-19T17:09:25Z

Cities?

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	::::::Yeah, I've died in Sand Hill before and it sends you to the little camp there [[User:Joshbl56\|Joshbl56]] 14:58, 18 March 2009 (CDT)		::::::Yeah, I've died in Sand Hill before and it sends you to the little camp there [[User:Joshbl56\|Joshbl56]] 14:58, 18 March 2009 (CDT)

-	::::::In that case, I replaced fourth with fifth for the time being. [[User:Clarica\|Clarica]] 12:09, 19 May 2009 (CDT)	+	:::::::In that case, I replaced fourth with fifth for the time being. [[User:Clarica\|Clarica]] 12:09, 19 May 2009 (CDT)

Clarica: /* Cities? */

2009-05-19T17:09:08Z

Cities?

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	::::::Yeah, I've died in Sand Hill before and it sends you to the little camp there [[User:Joshbl56\|Joshbl56]] 14:58, 18 March 2009 (CDT)		::::::Yeah, I've died in Sand Hill before and it sends you to the little camp there [[User:Joshbl56\|Joshbl56]] 14:58, 18 March 2009 (CDT)
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		+	::::::In that case, I replaced fourth with fifth for the time being. [[User:Clarica\|Clarica]] 12:09, 19 May 2009 (CDT)

Joshbl56: /* Cities? */ Answering a question

2009-03-18T19:58:32Z

Cities?: Answering a question

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	::::Are you sure you can spawn in Sand Hill by any other means than the Portals or Scrolls? '''''[[User:Icy\|Icy]] 09:19, 18 March 2009 (CDT)'''''		::::Are you sure you can spawn in Sand Hill by any other means than the Portals or Scrolls? '''''[[User:Icy\|Icy]] 09:19, 18 March 2009 (CDT)'''''
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		+	::::::Yeah, I've died in Sand Hill before and it sends you to the little camp there [[User:Joshbl56\|Joshbl56]] 14:58, 18 March 2009 (CDT)

Icy: /* Cities? */ commente

2009-03-18T14:19:19Z

Cities?: commente

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	:::# Uruga — (not tested yet)		:::# Uruga — (not tested yet)
	::: -[[User:Stelio\|Stelio]] 01:23, 18 March 2009 (CDT)		::: -[[User:Stelio\|Stelio]] 01:23, 18 March 2009 (CDT)
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		+	::::Are you sure you can spawn in Sand Hill by any other means than the Portals or Scrolls? '''''[[User:Icy\|Icy]] 09:19, 18 March 2009 (CDT)'''''

Stelio: /* Cities? */ objective definition of towns and cities

2009-03-18T06:23:07Z

Cities?: objective definition of towns and cities

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	::Alright. Just asking because someone listed Vera as the 5th city, not the 4th, so I just wanted to ask before dismissing it out of hand. [[User:Lvramire\|Lvramire]] 22:13, 17 March 2009 (CDT)		::Alright. Just asking because someone listed Vera as the 5th city, not the 4th, so I just wanted to ask before dismissing it out of hand. [[User:Lvramire\|Lvramire]] 22:13, 17 March 2009 (CDT)
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		+	::: I find that an excellent '''objective''' rule of thumb is the following:
		+	:::* If it's an area of NPCs that you can respawn in on death, then it's a town. (Obviously this excludes Kingdom Quests and Dungeons.)
		+	:::* If you can use the Character Hide mode in a town, then it's a city. (The Character Hide is when you press Shift+Z (by default) to hide other characters, reducing the graphics load time fro folks suffering from lag; note that this hides normal speech as well, but not whispers, shouts and so on.)
		+	::: This gives the following results for maps with NPCs:
		+	:::# Roumen — city
		+	:::# Forest of Mist — neither
		+	:::# Elderine — city
		+	:::# Sand Hill — town
		+	:::# Goblin Camp — neither
		+	:::# Uruga — (not tested yet)
		+	::: -[[User:Stelio\|Stelio]] 01:23, 18 March 2009 (CDT)

Ivramire: /* Cities? */ reply

2009-03-18T03:13:29Z

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	:That's actually highly non-trivial! But I would say, a city needs to have the vendor NPCs, a storage keeper, a guild manager, and a town chief. Won't do without any one of them. This means that Forest of Mist, Sand Hill, and Burning Rock do no qualify, even though they have groups of NPCs. They are camps. '''''[[User:Icy\|Icy]] 20:17, 17 March 2009 (CDT)'''''		:That's actually highly non-trivial! But I would say, a city needs to have the vendor NPCs, a storage keeper, a guild manager, and a town chief. Won't do without any one of them. This means that Forest of Mist, Sand Hill, and Burning Rock do no qualify, even though they have groups of NPCs. They are camps. '''''[[User:Icy\|Icy]] 20:17, 17 March 2009 (CDT)'''''
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		+	::Alright. Just asking because someone listed Vera as the 5th city, not the 4th, so I just wanted to ask before dismissing it out of hand. [[User:Lvramire\|Lvramire]] 22:13, 17 March 2009 (CDT)

Icy: /* Cities? */ responded

2009-03-18T01:17:52Z

Cities?: responded

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	If we consider Sand Hill a city, would we have to consider Forest of Mist one too? Or does it need to have storage to be a city? [[User:Joshbl56\|Joshbl56]] 17:02, 17 March 2009 (CDT)		If we consider Sand Hill a city, would we have to consider Forest of Mist one too? Or does it need to have storage to be a city? [[User:Joshbl56\|Joshbl56]] 17:02, 17 March 2009 (CDT)
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		+	:That's actually highly non-trivial! But I would say, a city needs to have the vendor NPCs, a storage keeper, a guild manager, and a town chief. Won't do without any one of them. This means that Forest of Mist, Sand Hill, and Burning Rock do no qualify, even though they have groups of NPCs. They are camps. '''''[[User:Icy\|Icy]] 20:17, 17 March 2009 (CDT)'''''

Joshbl56: /* Cities? */ Question

2009-03-17T22:02:10Z

Cities?: Question

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	==Cities?==		==Cities?==
	How many cities are there? If you consider Roumen, Elderine, Uruga and Vera, that's four. Is Sand Hill a City? If so, why is it listed on the same listing as the other 'cities' in the world map directory, but not on the same level as the other cities on the Main Page. [[User:Lvramire\|Lvramire]] 13:25, 17 March 2009 (CDT)		How many cities are there? If you consider Roumen, Elderine, Uruga and Vera, that's four. Is Sand Hill a City? If so, why is it listed on the same listing as the other 'cities' in the world map directory, but not on the same level as the other cities on the Main Page. [[User:Lvramire\|Lvramire]] 13:25, 17 March 2009 (CDT)
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		+	If we consider Sand Hill a city, would we have to consider Forest of Mist one too? Or does it need to have storage to be a city? [[User:Joshbl56\|Joshbl56]] 17:02, 17 March 2009 (CDT)

Ivramire: query

2009-03-17T18:25:43Z

query

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==Cities?==
How many cities are there? If you consider Roumen, Elderine, Uruga and Vera, that's four. Is Sand Hill a City? If so, why is it listed on the same listing as the other 'cities' in the world map directory, but not on the same level as the other cities on the Main Page. [[User:Lvramire|Lvramire]] 13:25, 17 March 2009 (CDT)