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11-03-2009, 06:08 PM
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Tbh it really is. But its always an option when you really just wanna be overall well built and not excel in anything.
Ehh I still say 25SPR rest STR is the way to go. Most archers eventually change to it and never go back.
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11-03-2009, 07:50 PM
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Jizz King
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Originally Posted by Leesa
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Isn't it bad to have 3 stats though? Since I would think you'd have to put 25 spr anyways, after getting to 50 dex, is it really worth putting the rest in str?
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That's exactly my build now-I've had 50DEX since level 45, and stopped exactly after that level (in which I found out that the perfect build is 25SPR rest STR, and not full DEX or 25 SPR rest DEX or 1:1 STR/DEX or whatever) and at level 90, I have only 30 points in STR. Trust me man, I'm freaking suicidal.
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11-03-2009, 09:22 PM
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lk;sfdb
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Wait, but I heard DEX is actually surprisingly good since nothing can even touch you... and since archers still do a shiz load of dmg it'll make up for lost STR from free stats, which you can gain back along with END from gear and enhancing... Idk, thats what I would think is good. Not good at archer stuff so I might be wrong but..
And DEX is helpful at 80s since BR mobs have a boost in evasion...
THEN AGAIN COULDNT U MAKE UP LOST AIM AND EVASION FROM SCROLLS? What? what? in the butt? Mmmmm /confused
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11-04-2009, 12:04 AM
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Lava Gargoyle
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I dont have a point in DEX and I don't think I have any points in my gear and I must say I barely miss. Even switching from a blue bow to an xbow I've barely noticed a difference. Maybe it'll come later, but at that stage I'll just use an aim scroll to make up for it.
Now I don't PvP as I fail at it no matter what so I can only speak from a PvE point of view.
Also the necessity of 25 SPR is rather dependant on the cash shop use and the weapon and license. Sure 5% extra is nice, especially when you cannot or will not use sc on crit suits. Lets say a proper weapon has at least 8% of base crit. Add a full license is +5%. Earrings +2%. Suit; depends on what suit but last I checked max is 15% and you can add some more with glasses 3% and back items and/or tails stuff.
That would be: 8 + 5 + 2 +15 + 3 + 3 = 36% (prolly possible to get more, but I can't be bothered atm XD).
Not too bad, and I don't think it's necessary to add 5 more from SPR.
If you don't use sc however it becomes different as you'll only have your equipments for crit.
Would be: 8 + 5 + 2 = 15%
In which case an extra 5% would be very useful (and I think very welcome).
As for me, yes I use crit suits and I have +25 SPR. THe highest crit rating I've ever achieved was 15+12+3+3+2=37%. However, when I dont use a crit suit I don't really notice a difference in the amount of crits I get.
So judge for yourself.
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11-04-2009, 10:35 AM
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Yea.. I honestly think sumwhere between 10&20% crit is bugged.. I mean my fighter with just 5% crit from build and earrings regularly crits up to 8 times in a row. I add a crit suite (tuff cookie) and the difference is not noticed.. I must say thou this is probably dude to fighters auto atk between skills.
My Mage needs to have about 25-30% crit b4 I can say he crits good. And even then there are times when a duel and not crit for the entire duration.. Then again am not really taking aoe crits into account
on subject. So 100 points in dex adds 15% evasion... Soooo what does that mean? Is it 15% chance I will randomly evade a kallap? Or is it base evasion + 15%..?? And is it your base evasion after it's been dex'd out? Or is it 15% of what my evasion would of been had I not added dex?
Also, is there or has there ever been an sc item that adds points to evasion.. I swear I have seen headfones but it's so long ago I can't remember if the game was fiesta or not
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11-04-2009, 12:06 PM
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Jizz King
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Originally Posted by Leesa
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Wait, but I heard DEX is actually surprisingly good since nothing can even touch you... and since archers still do a shiz load of dmg it'll make up for lost STR from free stats, which you can gain back along with END from gear and enhancing... Idk, thats what I would think is good. Not good at archer stuff so I might be wrong but..
And DEX is helpful at 80s since BR mobs have a boost in evasion...
THEN AGAIN COULDNT U MAKE UP LOST AIM AND EVASION FROM SCROLLS? What? what? in the butt? Mmmmm /confused
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heh..... we sure do.....
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[ninja]yes, that was sarcasm .-.[/ninja]
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11-04-2009, 10:12 PM
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AichtVeeGee4Life
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Originally Posted by Sanastra
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on subject. So 100 points in dex adds 15% evasion... Soooo what does that mean? Is it 15% chance I will randomly evade a kallap? Or is it base evasion + 15%..?? And is it your base evasion after it's been dex'd out? Or is it 15% of what my evasion would of been had I not added dex?
Also, is there or has there ever been an sc item that adds points to evasion.. I swear I have seen headfones but it's so long ago I can't remember if the game was fiesta or not
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Its your base evasion +15%. The 15% doesnt mean that every 1 outta 10 hits on you will be a miss. It just means that every hit that is rolled it has an extra 15% of missing. So you might get lucky and that extra 15% helps and makes someone miss on you 10 hits in a row, but other times it might not help and you'll get hit every time.
Dex is really random and there isnt a certain way that I've found to find a concrete outcome.
Str is always constant thats what I like about it.
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11-04-2009, 10:22 PM
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Archers do a shiz load of dmg yes they do >_> I think...
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11-04-2009, 10:32 PM
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AichtVeeGee4Life
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Yes we do.
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11-04-2009, 10:37 PM
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EXACTLY! Sero being all sarcastic mmhm gonna kiiiill uu
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