How do you tell if someone is extended?

**Blaaaaaaaah** · 04-02-2009, 03:51 AM

Alright. I get pwned in PvP KQ a lot, but sometimes I'd like to know whether they are on extenders or not. Because if it does, it makes me feel slightly better since I am on 0 cash shop in terms of extenders and charms and the like.

With the range of gears these days it seems hard to tell. But say, if I see an archer in a 55-69 PvP KQ with 4k HP, buffless, you reckon that's extended? She also did a crap load of damage on me but it's not like I've got strong defense.

I know there isn't an exact figure with the variations of equipments and marriage buff and things but, can anyone provide some sort of a rough range for each class when a person could possibly be extended for, say, a level 67-69ish range (considering that the people have highish END gear)?

My 69 mage with END gear (not max END but high-ish END) has 2.4k HP at the moment, if that helps...

**Hessah** · 04-02-2009, 04:07 AM

I think anyone with over 3k HP non-buffed is probably extended. With the exception of fighters who could possibly reach 3k with set items and such...

If they're extended i think 80% chance they're charmed too XD

**MikeyG** · 04-02-2009, 04:14 AM

Fighters and clerics can easily break 3k base health in 7x.

My fighter was str/spr lvl 68 and had 3k odd hp unbuffed.

EdwardWarlock · 04-03-2009, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by MikeyG

Fighters and clerics can easily break 3k base health in 7x.

My fighter was str/spr lvl 68 and had 3k odd hp unbuffed.

This is true. A pal of mine had an honest fight with me, and his HP was around 3.2 at 70 even.

If you have really good friends, ask them to let you smack them around a few times to get a good damage ratio. That's how I can tell. I view someone's HP (damn near always a fighter), chuck a spell at them, and you can pretty much determine from the damage output if they are charmed or extended. If they real honest, just ask them what their level is, and then the answer will become quite clear.

Another Note: As of late, watch out for charmed Enchanters! If you see a mage with more then 5.5 HP, get the hell outta the way, because he's extended. And as Hessah already said, people walking around in PvP buy the charms as well as the extenders. I think it's stupid, because almost no one fights straight up anymore, even without the in-game buffs.

**Zwivix** · 04-03-2009, 12:08 AM

If its a 50% charm anything from 3.5 to 4k+ and 20 is harder to tell since they might just have really good gear.

**Hessah** · 04-03-2009, 12:25 AM

Ah ok.. so mage / archers with more htan 3.5k HP is more than likely extended..

clerics / archer with more than 4k HP is more than likely extended..

this is for level 65-70ish....

EdwardWarlock · 04-03-2009, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Hessah

Ah ok.. so mage / archers with more htan 3.5k HP is more than likely extended..

clerics / archer with more than 4k HP is more than likely extended..

this is for level 65-70ish....

Yeah, for the most part. Good gears may be present, and +9. Just smack them and see how much damage you do. After a few pvps you'll find out the damage ratio and when people are cheating in the fight.

**Hessah** · 04-03-2009, 12:50 AM

+9 doesnt give extra HP though...

CrazyVietFs · 04-03-2009, 01:31 AM

my noob fighter crazyvietfs 75, with purple set, 4k+ base HP with axe, with shield and 1h, 4.4k base , scroll up and buff "by my friends lvl 84 with life set, = 6k+ w/o extender, extender, I reach 8k+,
- fighter 7x, always expect us to have at least two pieces of amor +9 ^^, i do not use extender or charm,but my gear are max end, or purple, 3 pieces +9 with blue axe,

1200HP +1000 roughly from cleric tier 4 with life set- 2.2k
so roughly on a normal basic w/o extender

6.6k+ HP
1.5k def base, with tier 4 def, 1.7k base

**Hessah** · 04-03-2009, 02:07 AM

is that full END?