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03-09-2009, 04:50 AM
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He knows he has 300 bucks. He knows he needs 150 bucks. But he still goes and spends 200 bucks on some pair of pants. That means he wants the pants more than food. He got what he wanted. If he wants pants and food, then tell him to work harder so he earns more.
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03-09-2009, 05:06 AM
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The fact that he cannot weigh what's more important is HIS fault. It's still entirely his choice as to what he wants to do with his money which he has earned. He just has to be prepared to met the consequences of his actions. That's basic responsibility. He hasn't done anything harmful to society by starving himself, and flaunting a new pair of jeans.
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03-09-2009, 05:16 AM
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Then it's the bank's fault for lending without seeing some collateral. It's more of irresponsible behaviour than irresponsible spending which causes all this.
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03-09-2009, 05:25 AM
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The sort of Objectivist viewpoint you're holding, Vasu, is fine on paper, and on a basic level is probably the best view to hold overall. It's when the poor decisions of others out of your control begins to affect you where there's a problem. People live outside of their means, banks loan money to people that can't pay them back, then the bank goes under while holding the money of people with a good head on their shoulder. Suddenly, the person that has done nothing wrong has been affected by the poor choices of others.
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03-09-2009, 05:26 AM
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See this is where you're misunderstanding me. I'm saying you can spend EARNED money in any way you see fit. You are talking about LOANED money. There's a world of difference. Anyways, I have to be off to school, I'll continue this debate in the evening.
EDIT: Hrae, what's fine on paper should work IRL if implemented correctly. Ciao now. Back in the evening.
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03-09-2009, 05:33 AM
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But when people spend MORE than they've EARNT they money that they exceeded on will have to come from somewhere, and that's borrowed money.
On paper we can say "well he'll just have no food for 10 days" but that's not how reality works.
But going back to wat Yosei was saying, I think that the biggest culprit to this massive recession are from the people up high with LOTSA money and authority, pocketing it all and let it go bust...
People that's already struggling gets into a worst situation when people stop spending then losing their jobs etc...
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