Is this ksing?

[Loveless]

@Hessah: If you want you can switch to each mob and Bash them each once. So they've taken the damage and is rightfully yours in any circumstances (through aggro AND damage dealt). :P

Rule of thumb, if the person isn't sparkling red and obviously heading towards the gate... don't touch their mob.

[ThievingSix]

I basically amalgamated my idea of KS'ing to this:

If either side has no damage done and they are already attacking something else then it's rightly yours.

I.E. If they haven't damaged it, and it hasn't damaged them then it's yours. The only way it wouldn't be yours is if they are not attacking something else and are ready to attack the new agro.

[MikeyG]

Me, I LOVE to argue. So when a fighter kicks my mobs after ive hit it
and im kiting ill argue, then get on zukiz, war there guild and have nakama
beat down on them for a good while.

[Sero]

Hit or Mock or Kick, as long as you got the monster's aggro first then it's yours.

/pwn

[Ivramire]

Let's just say that people have different definitions of KS o.O

[Sero]

^ true but, isn't what I said the right definition? Based on ToS or rules or w/e... o.o

[Ivramire]

Not really.


But it is the one that seems to be accepted by most as the 'fairest' definition.


Though definition of what exactly is 'fair' changes too..

[Eru]

...
Here comes someone else, taking one of my mob.. i've used lotsa SP to heal those many lots of 200 dmg on me, and here you are, taking it off me "coz you're not hitting it"...

I dont see how it's "not mine" coz "its not hitting me"...

I'm losing HP and SP over this mob... I believe I have every right to be the one to kill it

I agree with Hess...In the last thread about KSing I had my opinion changed. I *used* to think it was just "if you hit it its yours", but like Hess says, she is taking damage, and healing, or using pots/stones.

Now, I think of it as if you "have anything invested" into the monster...ie you would now have to spend ig-cash to bring yourself back to the point you were at before...then it *is* KSing.

I also agree with lrva's point that while this is the current accepted view, it changes and not everyone agrees (although Yosei's post about Dakkon should be good enough), so I think of it as a "gray-area" of KSing.

I usually say "please dont KS". If they tell me they aren't, I explain why they are (imo). If they continue I'll either take a screenie, including our convo, or I just go gather way more mobs than they probably want to be around.

@Hessah: If you want you can switch to each mob and Bash them each once. So they've taken the damage and is rightfully yours in any circumstances (through aggro AND damage dealt). :P

Rule of thumb, if the person isn't sparkling red and obviously heading towards the gate... don't touch their mob.

I'd follow this "thumb rule"...its a good one
...also one prob about hitting each monster is that it still only looks like you are attacking one if someone walks by *after* you've done that.

I basically amalgamated my idea of KS'ing to this: [...]

just incase anyone else was wondering

amalgamated:
The state of having been combined from two or more entities into one specific entity whilst retaining the defining characteristics of the original source entities

[Hessah]

@Hessah: If you want you can switch to each mob and Bash them each once. So they've taken the damage and is rightfully yours in any circumstances (through aggro AND damage dealt). :P

Rule of thumb, if the person isn't sparkling red and obviously heading towards the gate... don't touch their mob.

keke yeah well... its actually really time consuming to flick through each mob and hit it once... because of the animation lag...

and i would think if i've got a few mobs on me... i would be too busy trying to kill quickly and heal... to do tab and find the next mob to do 1 hit on...

i was hoping that my definition of KS will not get me into some button bashing problems LOL!

[Hraesvelg]

Yeah, the idea of individually "marking" a monster when you have a group on you is time consuming and shouldn't need to be done. If I have aggro, its mine. Period.