can I use an axe effectively?

[tuba]

Im a lv 19 fighter with +2 str +2spr and +15 end, can i use an axe effectively after the job advancement at lv 20?

[ThievingSix]

AXE users are usually people who have dumped points into SPR. From the build you have stated, you would be useing a 1-handed sword with a shield due to the points you put in END give a shield block advantage(you need a shield for that).

[Valentines]

Anyone can use an axe really, it's just the SPR people benefit more.

[Lyoven]

put that way, STR people benefit more from 1h swords
well, the higher your crit chance is (aside the weapon) the more 1h swords do more crits then axes.
if we only count 3% for a 1h sword and 5% for an axe, the latter will do more crits in lets say 1 hour, even due its slower hits.
but if someone would add spr to get 5% crit, wear 2% crit earrings and max out a lv60 licence.. wield a rare weapon (5% crit for the sword, 7% for the axe), sword will crit a lot more often

[Zotius]

No it won't. The chances are still the same. However, since you are attacking at a faster rate, it will seem that you are critting more often. And remember if an axe user is to use that build, an axe user will definitely crit more often than a sword user with that build.

[AngellicDiety]

No it won't. The chances are still the same. However, since you are attacking at a faster rate, it will seem that you are critting more often. And remember if an axe user is to use that build, an axe user will definitely crit more often than a sword user with that build.

I agree completely.

With the same build same earrings, the axe will always have a 2% critical rate over a 1-handed sword user.

7% (base) + 5% (license) + 5% (build) + 2% (earrings) = 19%
5% (base) + 5% (license) + 5% (build) + 2% (earrings) = 17%


I dislike it when people compare axes and swords using other items with stat-increase but not applying it to both. It makes the appearance of a "better" weapon, when it infact isn't...

The only thing a sword has over an axe with all things considered equal is the attack rate and aim. Aside from that there is nothing otherwise that can make a sword better than an axe under equal conditions.

[Zotius]

Yes and if I'm not wrong, if you compare a level 40 axe to a level 50 sword, you'll find that the axe has a higher dps.

[Lyoven]

what said was not that the 1h sword will out damage the axe
neither did i say that the 1h sword will have a higher chance to crit.
i said it will crit more often in a given time. which it will

I dislike it when people compare axes and swords using other items with stat-increase but not applying it to both. It makes the appearance of a "better" weapon, when it infact isn't..

care to explain which stat-incrasing factors i didnt apply to both?
or where i said one of the 2 weapons is better then the other?

[Zotius]

I must say that you didn't include in your post that the stats and item were applied to both weapons so it isn't that clear.

[Lyoven]

well thought it obvius, but lets go into detail then

if we only count 3% for a 1h sword and 5% for an axe, the latter will do more crits in lets say 1 hour, even due its slower hits.

sword: 3% crit chance, 3272 hits per hour, 98 cirts per hour
axe: 5% crit chance, 2400 hits per hour, 120 crits per hour

but if someone would add spr to get 5% crit, wear 2% crit earrings and max out a lv60 licence.. wield a rare weapon (5% crit for the sword, 7% for the axe), sword will crit a lot more often

(this means 5% crit from SPR, 2% from earrings, 5% from the licence for BOTH weapons. then 5% base crit from the rare sword and 7% base crit from the rare axe)
sword: (5+2+5+5) 17% crit chance, same 3272 hits per hour, 556 crits
axe: (5+2+5+7) 19% crit chance, same 2400 hits, 465crits

now before you jump on my post again, this isnt about which weapon is better, nor about damage, its just the plain number of critical hits in 1 hour of constant bashing. exactly like my previous post