If someone who always tells the truth say's their lying, are they lying?

[Haseo55]

Lol now i know but yea clerification but leesa's awnser sounds right.

[Ivramire]

If someone who always tells the truth say's their lying, are they lying?

All Spartans are liars.



I'm a Spartan.



Or am I..?

Fair enough. See if you can solve this one: Could any omnipotent being create a rock so heavy that it could not be lifted by the being?

http://www.fiestafan.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15388

[Belaslav]

Since you guys seem to be enjoying paradox problems, here a whole list of them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paradoxes

Zeno's my personal favourite.

[Lirange]

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION LIRNAGE: Wouldn't someone who always tells the truth not lie so they wouldn't even have to say they're lying? Either way, they'd be a liar xD

But if they're a liar then wouldn't them saying they'd lie be them telling the truth?

Eh, it's like asking what came first: the chicken or the egg.

Chicken. You place chicken before egg in the sentence, thus fore the chicken came first.

[Haseo55]

Lulz Chicken is me and my GF favorite food XD

[Hraesvelg]

Answer the question.

They are lying. A person that always tells the truth, by definition, cannot lie. If they are professing to lying, they are lying (either they are lying or lying about the lying), hence they are by definition lying in either case.

This just means "Person X never lies" is a false premise.

The true paradox is someone that says "I always lie". Wrap your head around THAT one.

[kirbysprite]

The true paradox is someone that says "I always lie". Wrap your head around THAT one.

So, if you always lie, Then that statement is a lie. Meaning you always you tell the truth. But if you're always telling the truth, then why did you just lie. Blah.

I also like:

"The next sentence is false.
The preceding sentence is true."

[Lirange]

heh..
G__G

[Kaini]

Simple. If they always tell the truth, they wouldn't have said it.

[Sparkeh]

Answer: I don't know!