Bush knocked down the towers. - Page 3

**A_Forever** · 08-15-2008, 04:15 AM

Its not just that, that makes me think 9/11 was an inside job. But, its hard to explain. Not hard. Just too long actually.

Whatever though. I'm not going to "argue" with you anymore, 1. Because I'm lazy. 2. Really not in the mood. 3. I have more important things to think/worry about. AND 4. I have to keep deleting posts.

So go ahead. Celebrate. You get the last word even though it doesn't change how I think and look at things.

**Hraesvelg** · 08-15-2008, 04:22 AM

Honestly, let's think about this. Do you realize how many people something like this would involve? Did they kill EVERYone involved in the planning/preperation to the point that NO ONE has come forward and blown a whistle in exchange for clemency? To think that 9/11 is an inside job is simply preposterous.

Did the Bush administration capitalize the situation to their advantage? Of course they did. They saw an opportunity to increase American hegemony, which is one of the central tennants of People for a New American Century (PNAC). PNAC is an influential right-wing think tank that has a who's who list of Republican luminaries associated with them.

They also seized on the opportunity to increase the powers of the Executive branch, which is how its supposed to work. The BAD thing is that the other two branches haven't smacked his hand and said "Bad executive!" like they should have. Checks and balances, diverging interests...its what the country was founded on and its as good a system that exists (aside from a completely benevolent dictator).

**Yosei** · 08-15-2008, 04:55 AM

I still think Loose Change has a lot of evidence. First he touches all of the past theories that may have led to 9/11, then hes going into facts like a place flying into the pentagon. Just some of it is illogical. I've never said its true... but some of it just doesn't fit.

**Hraesvelg** · 08-15-2008, 07:29 AM

Even some of the 9/11 Truthers are debunking Loose Change.

http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/loose_change/

And as for the specific claims in that picture:

YouTube - 911 Case Study: Pentagon Flight 77

Carmasa · 08-15-2008, 08:18 AM

You people can have your theories. But when it comes down to it, Bush did was not responsible for 9/11. Only ignorant, imbisiles would think that. Bin Laden, may indeed have been responsible, no one knows, except for the few Iraqis that worked with him. I honestly can't believe how moronic people that live in this amazing country, the US, can be, it's simply amazing.

**Rightclaw** · 08-15-2008, 08:50 AM

Carmasa, please remember to respect other people's opinions and not call them ignorant imbeciles. After all, that is considered a flame. Consider this a warning.

**Hraesvelg** · 08-15-2008, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Carmasa

except for the few Iraqis

Iraqis? Involved with 9/11? Factcheck please.

**Yosei** · 08-15-2008, 12:50 PM

I still think it is fishy, that plane had to have flown at one heck of an angle and distance to be able to glide over the lawn without making contact. A distance way beyond the lamp posts. I'd imagine it would have done more damage beyond those. Especially at the speed in which it was going.

And Carmasa, just because we are "America", the land of the free, democracy, etc, it doesn't mean our government doesn't have corruption. Its just the way it is, in most governments. We're allowed to question our government.

+Tequila+ · 08-15-2008, 04:49 PM

Hmm Alex Jones imo is just full of crap. His theories have been proving wrong over and over again. Sure like others have said the Bush Administration capitalized off 9/11 situation but it was not brought on by them. If there was as much evidence as is presented in Loose Change that 9/11 was a inside job. I'm sure someone else would have found it by now.Conspiracy theories are always interesting though.

As for Bush being a puppet. Bush was simply a fool elected by the American people. We*I mean those of voting age* did it and lol we should accept responsibility for something stupid we did. If he was a puppet lol he would have been alot better prepared. As for the next President being a puppet...unless you know something we don't. How can you say that?

Carmasa · 08-15-2008, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Yosei

I still think it is fishy, that plane had to have flown at one heck of an angle and distance to be able to glide over the lawn without making contact. A distance way beyond the lamp posts. I'd imagine it would have done more damage beyond those. Especially at the speed in which it was going.

And Carmasa, just because we are "America", the land of the free, democracy, etc, it doesn't mean our government doesn't have corruption. Its just the way it is, in most governments. We're allowed to question our government.

I know our government is in a alot of ways corrupt, it wants to be our mommy, so if we screw up, we have to "put a nickle in the jar".

I hate the government. @_@

Originally Posted by Hraesvelg

Iraqis? Involved with 9/11? Factcheck please.

Sorry, wrong race, same general terrorism.