I finally got around to watching the whole thing and the first gentleman made the most persuasive argument insofar as fundamental religions will always be at odds with democracy but that given enough reform it can be compatible.
I can't speak for all of western civilization, but I don't unfairly repudiate Islam, as I am equally disparaging to all forms of supernatural explanations for the universe, be it Islam, Christianity, or purple unicorns in my garage.
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