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08-25-2009, 09:27 AM
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WONDERARCHER
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Originally Posted by Hessah
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What about those who can sense ghost/spirits...
Just because some of us can't see them, you can't just rule out and say they don't exist...
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Sorry, this is slightly off topic...
I saw somewhere (Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya... xD) about an idea/thought that the existence of something is limited to the acceptance/knowledge in the human mind. So like... back before North America wasn't discovered, it didn't exist because nobody knew about it. Another example would probably be Leprechaun and Easter Bunny and Santa... to kids that believe they are real, they are. To those that outgrow them, they aren't real anymore. Kind of like the tree that falls when nobody's around... /doesn't know how else to explain it.
I remember that there was a specific name for this kind of thought/theory/idea/etc. Does anyone here know? TT__TT
Originally Posted by Jikanu
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as for emperical evidence, i have none but what i feel in my soul. And you'll call that into question and try to disprove what cant be disproved, and i'll try to prove what can only be felt. so there's no real point in debating.
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Your feelings aren't enough.
If they were, then there wouldn't be any religious debates in the world. =_=
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08-25-2009, 10:38 AM
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Mini Greenky
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Originally Posted by Jikanu;
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as for emperical evidence, i have none but what i feel in my soul. And you'll call that into question and try to disprove what cant be disproved, and i'll try to prove what can only be felt. so there's no real point in debating.
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You can't say that just because you have a feeling means your religion exist. Its not sufficient evidence and anyone can make it up. I think you need a little more physical evidence.
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08-25-2009, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Hessah
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@ Enen - Yeah! That's exactly what I was trying to say~ -feels so happy someone understands-
"an idea/thought that the existence of something is limited to the acceptance/knowledge in the human mind"
Nicely put!
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Yeah! : D
/feels happy too. xD
But I wasn't necessarily agreeing with you... ^^;
/feels a bit bad.
Then again, I don't necessarily disagree with you either LOL. xDDD
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08-25-2009, 11:07 AM
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think before you type
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Originally Posted by Enraya
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Sorry, this is slightly off topic...
Leprechaun and Easter Bunny and Santa... to kids that believe they are real, they are. To those that outgrow them, they aren't real anymore.
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WHAT ARE YOU SAYING HERE!
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08-25-2009, 11:29 AM
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hi everyone ;D
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08-25-2009, 10:30 PM
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Lizardman
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Originally Posted by Enraya
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Your feelings aren't enough.
If they were, then there wouldn't be any religious debates in the world. =_=
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...that's kinda what i just said. im not wise enough in the subject, and have know proof. all i know is what i feel, and what i can make out of it. did you notice the last sentence of that? :/
and sec, i know they cant control all of your actions, but they CAN lead you to right and wrong. if you're doing something wrong, you'll get a sense of guilt, will you not?
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08-25-2009, 10:39 PM
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Blaaaaaah 2 u 2
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Originally Posted by Jikanu
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if you're doing something wrong, you'll get a sense of guilt, will you not?
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That depends on the society in which one was raised. One culture might see the existence of catamites as "wrong" while another doesn't have a problem with it. Also, see: slavery.
Do you think an Arab feels a sense of "wrong" as he gleefully stones someone to death?
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08-25-2009, 11:23 PM
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Lizardman
In-Game Name: Jikanu
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Originally Posted by Hraesvelg
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That depends on the society in which one was raised. One culture might see the existence of catamites as "wrong" while another doesn't have a problem with it. Also, see: slavery.
Do you think an Arab feels a sense of "wrong" as he gleefully stones someone to death?
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I dont know. i'm not in their shoes, nor are you. Neither of us know who the actual executioners feel about it. For example, i believe there was one queen in Britain who forgave her executioner, making him feel sadness over what he had to do. Also, nice little bit of propaganda in there with the "Gleefully" part.
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