Test your knowledge of Fiesta's operation - Page 3

**Ralath** · 09-03-2008, 08:11 AM

Is that number too high or too low?

**Ivramire** · 09-03-2008, 08:12 AM

I honestly thought it'd be a bit higher.

But I guess with all the guys playing female characters...you just never know.

EDIT: but this was back in Jan. after all.

**Icy** · 09-03-2008, 08:40 AM

Omigod [Tutor]Madison I love you in your kawaii yakuta ~<3

Lol. I still remember Madison from CB2.

**Ralath** · 09-03-2008, 08:57 AM

I'm pretty sure Madison is one of SKiNG's alts.

It's his daughter's name or something. I forgets.

**Sero** · 09-03-2008, 10:11 AM

Yay! I voted for nope XD

**Icy** · 09-03-2008, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Serendira

Yay! I voted for nope XD

There's no right or wrong answer

As Ralath pointed out earlier, technically the game will never leave beta stage. However, since the commercial premiere was announced, realistically speaking one should expect the game to be regarded with the same, if not higher, expectation as a finished product on shop shelves (and therefore the term beta should not be brought up as a precursor to subsequent facilitation of the lesser blame phenomenon). And then, there's the poll, which shows in people minds it still hasn't left open beta. Meh.

**Triumph** · 09-03-2008, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Ralath

I'm pretty sure Madison is one of SKiNG's alts.

It's his daughter's name or something. I forgets.

It was [GM]Break, I think. Well Admin Break now, I'd assume.

Yay American complicated legalities.

The reason Outspark maintains it's "Open Beta" faÃ§ade so that they have a shield to defend themselves from inadequacies. It's really a "legal" defense; by saying they are in "Open Beta," as Ralath has said, they therefore can claim in that they are still testing, despite the release of premium items. In essence, therefore, they can state that they are very sorry for the bugs, working diligently to fix them, and have Fiesta players' best interests at heart.

Which is why they take ages to fix a simple error that anyone can fix, let alone the developer team. Which is why they took months to fix the relog bug, the bugs that came with the June 9th patch, and why they squabbled fiercely with Gamigo regarding European player accounts.

I would get flamed by the Outspark Self-Appointed Forum Gestapo if I posted there. So I rant and rave here.

**Hraesvelg** · 09-03-2008, 03:34 PM

That interview was very...illuminating.

**Zwivix** · 09-03-2008, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Ralath

It's really mincing words.

Fiesta is still in Open Beta because Outspark says it is in Open Beta.

I like Wikipedia's excerpt on this:

The term open beta isn't defined. And I don't think Outspark has ever said full release.

I just realized I might have voted for the wrong one. Can't remember now. >_<

This explains alot...

**Yosei** · 09-03-2008, 04:29 PM

Tbh (and no this isn't coming from an Outspark lapdog), I don't really care what they call it now o.O its only a game, something we do in our free time, we don't necessarily have to put money into it, and if you do thats your choice, but it doesn't mean you, as an individual, will receive better service now by putting more money into the company. I know a lot of people think Outspark judges people based on whether they're a CS user, but its been proven on multiple occasions that that is not the case. So yeah.. in before bringing CS into their consideration.

I mean.. compared to most companies, Outspark isn't that old (didn't Outspark launch in May last year?). If you've seen pictures of their office on the forums, they don't even have their own building, almost looks like just a floor (point being they don't have a lot of employees in comparison to let say, Blizzard). Of course, this isn't an excuse for them to slack, but at the same time, they don't exactly have the man power(and too many duties per position), Outspark is still learning to walk, they're building momentum, they're starting to be more informing on their updates, and they're starting to get things done quicker.

No ones perfect, and no one gets it right at first, even companies. As time goes, Outspark will probably gain more money, get more empoyees, thus getting better service, and more people working on getting the updates out and fixed if theres anything wrong.

I do know they do like criticism, constructive criticism. No one likes to read or waste their time on "OMG WTF OUTSPARK! You guys are such liars! You say its Beta but you've been saying this for a year! W.T.F! How lame is that???? What kind of company does that??? insertothergamenamehere Online was in OB for a MONTH!"

Of course, a lot of the time on the forums, the members can get a little too defending of Outspark, and start squawking at the person trying to make a point, except for people who post like the above, they kind of have it coming. Then a flame war breaks out, then the thread is closed.

All I can say in the end is... if you can play the game, you like to play it, you enjoy your time when you're playing it, why worry about it? It's just a word.