25 SPR? What for?

MagesRequiem · 10-17-2007, 03:10 AM

Unfortunately, this isn't just a question for one class. I'm curious as to why people put 25 SPR and then put the rest into something else. With 25 SPR you only get about 100+ extra SP. The M. Defense isn't high enough to really be effective. And whats the point of having 5% critical rate? I mean 5% out of 100%? You're missing about 95% there. Thats something I do not gamble with. If it were about 30% or higher i'd do it. But its not. So I want to know, whats the point of even having 25 SPR? For my Mage i'm going pure INT and for my Fighter I am going pure END. So please, explain to me what the point of having 25 SPR is before I get too far.

**Triumph** · 10-17-2007, 03:16 AM

We want that minuscule 5% critical bonus.

.o0O0O0o. · 10-17-2007, 03:20 AM

25 end = bout 125hp? I'm sure my 5% crit hit will go thru that 125 extra hp of yours in 1 hit and then some.

**Valentines** · 10-17-2007, 03:22 AM

^ Hmm, interesting point.

**Triumph** · 10-17-2007, 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by .o0O0O0o.

25 end = bout 125hp? I'm sure my 5% crit hit will go thru that 125 extra hp of yours in 1 hit and then some.

Not necessarily.

You have 95% - (weapon critical) - (license critical), which varies it. Even still, it's around 90% chance of not landing a critical.

The END, on the other hand, will always be there. Not to mention block and increased defense, 25 END = 2.5% block rate. It's not much, but it adds up. Not to mention about 12 extra defense as well.

.o0O0O0o. · 10-17-2007, 03:29 AM

Really, i think the best stat is SPR, til 25, since others don't give much. Compare all stat if you put 25 to them. @ lvl 20, you'd have +25 damage (int/str) wooptidoo! With end you get 125 hp + some block, if you got a shield (big deal). And dex, you get little more aim and dodge (hardly noticable). With SPR i get 5% chance to kill classes/mobs quicker.

**Hessah** · 10-17-2007, 03:30 AM

surprisingly... 5% crit rate boost your chance of crit-ing a lot! (sounds a bit funny.. as if i'm talking about a kilo of brick is actually a lot heavier than you think)

anyway...

i had a Marlone King Hammer (or watever it was called) with a nicee 9% crit.. and i had times where i do triple crits... at max.. my other normal hammer only did a double...

1 crit every 10 hit (10% crit, 5% from weapon, 5% from spr) is better than 1 crit every 20 hits (for only 5% crit)... but personally i think my chances of critting is more frequent than the pure number they gave us....

EDIT: i'm saying the same thing as Triumph but in a positive light kekeke

**Triumph** · 10-17-2007, 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by .o0O0O0o.

Really, i think the best stat is SPR, til 25, since others don't give much. Compare all stat if you put 25 to them. @ lvl 20, you'd have +25 damage (int/str) wooptidoo! With end you get 125 hp + some block, if you got a shield (big deal). And dex, you get little more aim and dodge (hardly noticable). With SPR i get 5% chance to kill classes/mobs quicker.

I have 24 points in STR, and I hit 30-40 more than a cleric my level does.

For example: I hit 140 on Harkans. My friend with END:SPR hits 100.

Same level, same +3 hammer.

It's a personal preference, but your perspective is as a mage: Your class just plows through monsters. Other classes that aren't as fast look at more of a survival build (as in take less damage and do more damage overall) rather than a nuke build. I'll accept the fact that a mage is pretty damn powerful, but endurance-wise, a cleric wins, hands down.

**Hessah** · 10-17-2007, 03:35 AM

he depends on wat u're looking at.. ur frd could would be able to take on an extra hit or two from the karkans compare to u without those outs in END...

so yeah... u gain some u lose some!

MagesRequiem · 10-17-2007, 03:56 AM

I had a level 32 Mage with about 22-23 SPR. I also had (and still have) a Zombie King Zest Wand. I think it has about 5% critical on it? Not entirely sure although I will check that out. At that level I was always grinding in CP when I wasn't talking or helping others. But I had a friend on there who went pure INT and had a Staff. I don't think she had/has a Zombie King Zest Staff but i'll ask her next time I see her.

She was doing about 140-150 to each monster which is was about 300 each time she got a crit. I was only doing about 90-110 when I hit. She was level 39 but she only had a normal Zest Staff (from what I could tell) so its obvious she wasn't do much more but she was definitely doing more than me and I didn't get as many crits as I would've liked. That 22-23 points of SPR were wasted. Even the small amount of extra M. Defense wasn't worth it.