should fighters add Spr - Page 2

Flowersss · 07-12-2008, 04:53 AM

Did you say Hi? If you didn't then I would have never guessed.

**MikeyG** · 07-12-2008, 04:59 AM

We fought for a while o.0 i told u it twas me =o

**Ivramire** · 07-12-2008, 05:11 AM

Back OT:-

SPR for a Fighter is actually pretty decent if you're willing to sacrifice either STR or END. Some of the really good tankers (pre-cap) were END/SPR hybrids.

An Axer going 25 SPR/rest STR is actually more dangerous than a full STR Fighter in PvP despite full STR doing statistically more damage more consistently. When it's human x human, not knowing when the next strike is going to crit and potentially underestimating/overestimating the crit rate/your healing capability, the occasional crit will more likely kill your target than the expected blow of anticipated damage.

A Power Hit ---> Weapon Swap ---> Accurate Strike chain that crits will bring most people low.

Higher chance to crit is also very good for the Fighter's trump skill Devastate, where you have a good chance to crit on multiple targets making higher % chance more valuable than a few additional points of damage.

Tankers going End/Spr lessen slightly the hammering they take from magic damage and get a slightly enhanced Mana pool.

**Ralath** · 07-12-2008, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by lvramire

Tankers going End/Spr lessen slightly the hammering they take from magic damage and get a slightly enhanced Mana pool.

I did that a lot when I first started playing Fiesta.

**Triumph** · 07-12-2008, 06:09 PM

Wrong forum.

And no.

A pure build always defeats a hybrid build.

However, one group of individuals will swear wholeheartedly that the 5% critical is worth more, despite hard calculations done by numerous people. I recall in the early days these calculations were both based on theoretical damage and accumulated experimental data.

Both proved that, for instance, at level 79, 94 STR > 69 STR/25 SPR.

The same applies for INT.

If you still doubt, ask yourself this:

Why else were all the first Legends of Isya pure builds?

**MikeyG** · 07-12-2008, 06:11 PM

Quote:

A pure build always defeats a hybrid build.

ROFL, funny one.

**Ralath** · 07-12-2008, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Triumph

Why else were all the first Legends of Isya pure builds?

Bad correlation.

I don't see how a cleric with full STR is going to get to 79 faster than a cleric with 25 SPR and rest STR because people (cleric's especially) aren't soloing their way to 79.

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If cleric's aren't soloing, chances are someone else is doing the damage for them and then the STR is wasted since they're not attacking anything anyway.

Ethelinde · 07-12-2008, 06:17 PM

A fighter needs SPR if he/she wish to PVP against multiple mages/tank magic mobs better, but generally from equipments and not build. If you want to do damage full STR is better than with 25 SPR.

Ethelinde · 07-12-2008, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Ralath

Bad correlation.

I don't see how a cleric with full STR is going to get to 79 faster than a cleric with 25 SPR and rest STR because people (cleric's especially) aren't soloing their way to 79.

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If cleric's aren't soloing, chances are someone else is doing the damage for them and then the STR is wasted since they're not attacking anything anyway.

Elfenlied solo'd her way to 79 with full STR, before the abyss and all the exp rates.

Omg double again... T_T

**Triumph** · 07-12-2008, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by MikeyG

ROFL, funny one.

I have Excel spreadsheets, player testimonies, and conducted experiments.

You, on the other hand, only have your opinion and your donated cleric account.

Furthermore, interesting to note how Seva, Fireriot, Patchouli, StarLeona, and various other damage-dealing individuals were all pure builds.

But I suppose your opinion with no factual basis outweighs mine. After all, you hold a great and almighty level 78 cleric. I cannot compete.