[Outspark][Announcement] Players scamming other players - Page 2

**Hessah** · 12-11-2007, 11:17 PM

yeah i would've bought it if i didnt hear about it from Yosei's other thread like a day before that...

i've always wondered why it says lvl requirement is 30.... but i never thought that it was a scam...

**Spirit** · 12-12-2007, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by hyperswoss

@rsx-s: "hacked the system"? Where'd you hear that?
It really bugs me when people call EVERYONE who mods/add fixes to a game a "hacker".

Replacing the hair color files with Shine Online ones =/= "hacking the server".

Ummm... you (or whoever) are altering the game from how the company that controls the game wants it to be, therefore this is against the ToS, and the basic generic term for that is "hacker".

**Hyper** · 12-12-2007, 12:47 AM

Yeah, I know its not allowed, and the only thing I ever changed was to add Ghostly's quest fix, but I deleted that. (It should be used by all, since the devs are too damn lazy to fix the most wanted quest bugs.) So I would be a hacker then? Hacker is way too strong of a word, and IMO, it gives way too much credit to people who copy and paste a file into the /Fiesta folder. (I don't aspire to be a hacker, or whatever is might be read out as... >.<)

It also isn't using any 3rd party software, which is what hacking is.

Originally Posted by Destrus

i'm so glad they're not like gala with flyff where they don't take any action with scams and just say it was your fault for not paying attention.

lmao

That's exactly what I said on the Outspark forum.

Its your (talking about people who buy, then complain) fault for being a big enough idiot to buy a Vitality 2 Production Skill that is:

A. Incorrectly named.

2. Has a level requirement.

and

IIV. Doesn't have a "Required Scroll Production: xxxx".

FatalLace · 12-12-2007, 11:54 AM

here's one on Bijou server 12/12/2007 4:50am PST

**Patches** · 12-12-2007, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by hyperswoss

Yeah, I know its not allowed, and the only thing I ever changed was to add Ghostly's quest fix, but I deleted that. (It should be used by all, since the devs are too damn lazy to fix the most wanted quest bugs.) So I would be a hacker then? Hacker is way too strong of a word, and IMO, it gives way too much credit to people who copy and paste a file into the /Fiesta folder. (I don't aspire to be a hacker, or whatever is might be read out as... >.<)

It also isn't using any 3rd party software, which is what hacking is.

Hacking does not mean using 3rd party software(A true hacker would be pissed about that comment), but if that were true you would in fact be a hacker (which you claim not to be) because you used Ghostly's "patch" which to you would be a 3rd party software correct, because neither you nor outspark created it, hence the term 3rd party. I could care less whether you are or are not or what you do. Don't take things so personal. Nobody was calling you out here.

@ Spirit,
Thanks

On Topic: I hate those scammers that put one price on all the items except one will have 1 silver more than the rest. Have to watch for them all the time.

**Spirit** · 12-12-2007, 01:37 PM

Ohhh- but I dont think he actually "used" Ghostly's patch. I think he started too, but after reading more in here, he decided not too.
But, yes, all-in-all if you alter a copy in any way, even if it is to "copy/paste" a folder, it is still altering the game.

"Hacker has several common meanings, the unifying characteristic of which is only that it refers to a person who is an avid computer enthusiast. It is most commonly used as a pejorative by the mass media to refer to a person who engages in illegal computer trespass remotely via some sort of communications network (i.e. the Internet, a LAN or a dial-up network), its original meaning referred to an unauthorized user of the telephone company network (now called a Phreaker) but it can also refer to people engaged in ethical computer hacking (i.e. debugging or improving software functionality), to the members of the open source and free software community, or to home computer hobbyists."

It is a more commonly used phrase than what it started out as and has new meanings also.

**Yosei** · 12-12-2007, 05:43 PM

I still say both parties are guilty. The seller is a jerk for doing that, and the buyer is dumb for not looking carefully before buying.

**Spirit** · 12-18-2007, 02:48 PM

Hey, I gots a question. So, I spotted this person advertising to buy Beast Dogtooth at 23c, but when you looked at the price they were only paying 1c. So, I gots some screenshots, but was wondering where I report it at???? Can we attach a link to the announcement so people can just click ob the link and report scams?

jacquin · 12-18-2007, 03:30 PM

I was of the belief that reports are PMed to the GMs in the fiesta forums. It's where I sent mine (though first I had to fix it since the GM couldn't see the image).

**Yosei** · 12-18-2007, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Spirit

Hey, I gots a question. So, I spotted this person advertising to buy Beast Dogtooth at 23c, but when you looked at the price they were only paying 1c. So, I gots some screenshots, but was wondering where I report it at???? Can we attach a link to the announcement so people can just click ob the link and report scams?

Hm... thats unique, but yeah, I guess it is a scam, they were buying less than they said.