Test your knowledge of Fiesta's operation

**Icy** · 09-03-2008, 05:45 AM

This post serves to inform, but I also add a poll because I'd quite like to know the populace's take on this

1. Vote 2. Click on the link below for more information! 3. Read the rest of the thread if you wish~

No spoilers please

Click

**Hessah** · 09-03-2008, 05:52 AM

AHHHHHH i voted for the wrong one...

i voted yes i think so, but.. it should be No i dont think fiesta is out of open beta.. (thought the question asked if fiesta is still in open beta -.-)

-clicks on link now-

EDIT: OK... wat's the answer? that doesnt really answer the question... it's been known for a long that that "apparently" hving a fiesta store =/= beta or not...

They've been claiming that they're in Open beta even though they've got a fiesta store...

**Ivramire** · 09-03-2008, 05:57 AM

Didn't Euro Fiesta say that they were already moving out/ are out of Open Beta?

Lol?

**Ivramire** · 09-03-2008, 06:11 AM

I think most of the belief comes from them having 'Open Beta' splattered across the last few ads they've paid for.

Which I can't find anymore =/

The magic of Open Beta can apparently be used to explain everything?

EDIT: wasn't there a post above before o_o?

**Hessah** · 09-03-2008, 06:28 AM

@lvra - yeah that's wat i thought too!!

i'm trying so hard to find it..

the closest thing i could find was Spirit's post from back here:
http://www.fiestafan.com/forums/show...5&postcount=57

June 08... that is waaaaaaay after Icy's article there.. and i'm sure there's a reason to why we still believed that it was in beta all the way to at least Jun 08...

i'll keep snooping

**Ralath** · 09-03-2008, 06:28 AM

It's really mincing words.

Fiesta is still in Open Beta because Outspark says it is in Open Beta.

I like Wikipedia's excerpt on this:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

In February 2005, ZDNet published an article about the recent phenomenon of a beta version often staying for years and being used as if it were in production-level. It noted that Gmail and Google News, for example, had been in beta for a long period of time and were not expected to drop the beta status despite the fact that they were widely used; however, Google News did leave beta in January 2006. This technique may also allow a developer to delay offering full support and/or responsibility for remaining issues. In the context of Web 2.0, people even talk of perpetual betas to signify that some software is meant to stay in beta state. Also, "beta" is sometimes used to indicate something more like a release candidate such as the Halo 3 public beta.

The term open beta isn't defined. And I don't think Outspark has ever said full release.

I just realized I might have voted for the wrong one. Can't remember now. >_<

**booyah8876** · 09-03-2008, 06:37 AM

Look at any ticket that you submit to a CSR.

It says always to understand they're still in Beta.

>.>;

**Ivramire** · 09-03-2008, 06:40 AM

Guess that solves it.

**Icy** · 09-03-2008, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by lvramire

EDIT: wasn't there a post above before o_o?

Yes yes there was, you were not seeing things. I removed it and sent it to you instead

Originally Posted by Ralath

It's really mincing words.

Fiesta is still in Open Beta because Outspark says it is in Open Beta.

I like Wikipedia's excerpt on this:

The term open beta isn't defined. And I don't think Outspark has ever said full release.

I just realized I might have voted for the wrong one. Can't remember now. >_<

Now, I wouldn't even dare post my summary on the implication of your source on Outspark's intentions on the official Outspark forum. That will have me chargrilled in 10 different ways.

Outspark's corporate news release said commercial premiere, so either the business sector or the customer service sector of the company is, ummm, not telling the truth.

**Ivramire** · 09-03-2008, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by Icy

Yes yes there was, you were not seeing things. I removed it and sent it to you instead

so that's what it was for

Yeah, you'd get roasted for posting it on there. Don't know why, but a fair number of posters take it upon themselves to defend the 'virtue' of a Business Corporation.