All about freestat SPR vs STR/INT

[Shiirn]

A critical deals exactly double damage - When I punch a 80+ fighter with my archer who has a total of +80 damage, she deals 81 damage per hit, 1 for the minimum damage able to be dealt and 80 more for freestat STR. When she crits, she deals 162 damage, while her character info says she deals like....100.


And with certain adding that i did while i was bored, the highest possible crit as of this moment, with 25spr but not beyond:
10+5% Blue xBow
12% swimsuit (Or 15% dakkon suit for 1 day...)
7% patriotic hat
5% bunny tail (No longer usable. But it's existed.)
5% butterfly wings
5% from 25 spr

that's 49% crit.



I'll be adding more later; just like the 70-89 guide... which I'm currently putting on a higher tier for reconstruction.

[Hraesvelg]

Does the SPR from equipment stats add any chance to crit?

[Shiirn]

Does the SPR from equipment stats add any chance to crit?

It does not, I believe.... my fighter has almost 150 SPR from equips, and doesn't crit 15% more. (Using 1point=0.1%, since she has 25spr already).

I believe it's been disproven by better people then I... I just don't remember who.

[Blaaaaaaaah]

Does the SPR from equipment stats add any chance to crit?

No, because if they did, high SPR equipments would be MAJORRRRRRRRRRRRRLY overpriced by now.

[a.L]

A critical deals exactly double damage - When I punch a 80+ fighter with my archer who has a total of +80 damage, she deals 81 damage per hit, 1 for the minimum damage able to be dealt and 80 more for freestat STR. When she crits, she deals 162 damage, while her character info says she deals like....100.


And with certain adding that i did while i was bored, the highest possible crit as of this moment, with 25spr but not beyond:
10+5% Blue xBow
12% swimsuit (Or 15% dakkon suit for 1 day...)
7% patriotic hat
5% bunny tail (No longer usable. But it's existed.)
5% butterfly wings
5% from 25 spr

that's 49% crit.



I'll be adding more later; just like the 70-89 guide... which I'm currently putting on a higher tier for reconstruction.

What about set boots?

[Shiirn]

Yep, forgot them. 75 or 85 set boots for 5% crit,

54% crit.

[Ivramire]

Someone set out a spreadsheet before of the exact same SPR vs STR argument. It was calculated (even with skills) that STR won out unless you got lucky and hit a critting spree. This was of course before CS items that gave you bonus crit. % so it's radically different now.


With there being a real possibility of someone obtaining a 54% crit rate and possibly critting every other hit, STR doesn't look like it stands much of a chance


Is it any different if you count only builds and stock weps, rather than boosting crit % to the max?

[Brave_Dai]

*invades thread*
can i continue what you have started? thx ^^

beyond +25 SPR up to +61 SPR, increase is 0.1% critical. so as your previous calculations,
you need 10 SPR points to make 1% more, in the other hand 10 STR makes 12 extra dmg, so:

*copy/paste* ^^

For the benefits of each to equal each other, we can use the equation X+12=1.01X, which comes to 1200 damage as X. If you deal less then 1200 dmg, free stat STR would be more advantageous because

STR = SPR
1100+12 ?=? 1.01x1100
1112 > 1111.

If you deal more then 1200 damage, SPR would be more advantageous, because

STR = SPR
1300+12 ?=? 1.01x1300
1312 < 1313
------------- end of copy/paste (with modification) ----------------
next is beyond +61 SPR, increase is 0.05% critical.
with the same calculations, new threshold is 2400 dmg, if you have more than 2400 dmg, then SPR still better than STR.

as for me, using bk axe, my dmg is more than 2.4k dmg, so i guess free stat SPR is still better than STR...

i started to believe in pure SPR build xD
*buys stat reset scroll* >.<

Note: for mages, since they don't critical nova/inferno, i think INT is better for them.

[thunderbrit07]

Question Shiirn where are you getting information like:

That's the kind of thing i'm providing information to prevent - Unsupported, undefended arguements that you might as well say 'because i said so'.

I'm not saying one is better then the other. I'm not going to say that, I'll let *you* decide.

Don't bring in unsupported claims into my topic, please.

Criticals also DOUBLE any freestat STR that is applied to damage, refuting your claim - an increase of SPR freestat can possibly double your freestat STR (Not backing this up at all, similar to you.)

[Jikanu]

what about the other bonuses that spr adds too? like the M. Def. and the SP... it's minor, but if it gives a bit more of a bonus, isnt that still good?