25 SPR? What for? - Page 2

**Hessah** · 10-17-2007, 04:06 AM

i dont think u can compare a lvl 39 to a lvl 32... that's actually a very big level difference...

Enrei · 10-17-2007, 04:06 AM

Well for me, I'm not really built to do a lot of damage but I like the extra crit %+ and the small boost of SP & M. Def. It sort of helps when there's no Mage in the party and I sometimes have to tank a magic-casting monster.

MagesRequiem · 10-17-2007, 04:13 AM

@Hessah: Maybe so but if I went pure INT and used my Zombie King Zest Wand i'd deal more damage than she was. Maybe even 200 per hit. >.>

@Enrei: As a Fighter, the 5% critical isn't worth it unless you're spamming skills which I find rather unnecessary. The M. Defense boost you get from it is way too small to even make a difference. And the SP? Like I said with 25 its only about 125 extra SP. Thats definitely nothing if you're a Mage as our high leveled spells cost over 50 SP to use. Maybe to a Fighter it might be slightly valuable but i'd rather just go ahead and beef up my END. Every time you put a point into END/SPR you get about 5 extra points of HP/SP. I'd rather have a few meager points in something that can save my life as opposed to something that can only help me use a skill.

Enrei · 10-17-2007, 04:26 AM

@MagesRequiem: Well it's all about personal preferences, I usually spam debuffs on the monsters I'm training on. And since I sometimes usually solo, it helps to have that extra critical hit rating when I tank monsters.

**Hessah** · 10-17-2007, 04:27 AM

5% crit is useful even if you dont spam skill... i dont understand why u said u hv to spam skill to make it useful... any crit is good for me.. bonus if its a skill... also.. mage's atk rate is slower than other classes (skill cool down) so u do relatively less hits per min, hence less crits per min... its probably not worth it for u .. but for other class with a faster atk speed.. we have more chance of getting crit

but yeah i guess mages need that END coz u guys hv poor defence...

fighters already hv a pretty good defence from normal lvl stats (at least they dont die in 3 hits XD) so they can afford to put more pts in SPR over END compare to Mage...

these extra stats pts are just given to us so we can build our character to be strong in the way that we want.... if u prefer more def over more dmg... then... so be it.. others prefer more crits and SP over defence.. they let them be....

MagesRequiem · 10-17-2007, 04:39 AM

I said that because Fighters aren't exactly the speediest people in the game. Mages can cast one spell after another and hit harder than they can so they're more liable to get crits than anyone else. But if a Fighter were to spam his/her skills they might have a better chance of getting crit. But even still 5% is pointless. I mean, it would be nice to have but compared to the extra HP and defense and shield block rate its just not worth it.

I'm a 1h Sword user so obviously i'm nothing more than a meat shield. I'm not there to try to deal tons of damage. I'm there to take all the hits away from people. And EVERY point of defense is important to me. But what the hell Hessah? If a Mage even puts one point into any stat other than SPR or INT he/she's a moron. Its a waste of a stat point and will not help in any way.

Anyways, I do believe Dynanub was the one to say that stat points are pointless. He's pretty much right but sometimes having an extra HP can be the difference between life or death.

**ThievingSix** · 10-17-2007, 04:40 AM

Note: This is all a generalization

Normal Weapon(3% crit) = 1 out of every 33 attacks crit
Advance Weapon(5% crit) = 1 out of every 20 attacks crit
Specialty Weapon(9% crit) = 1 out of every 11 attacks crit

Normal Weapon(3% crit + 1% earring) = 1 out of every 25 attacks crit
Advance Weapon(5% crit + 1% earring) = 1 out of every 18 attacks crit
Specialty Weapon(9% crit + 1% earring) = 1 out of every 10 attacks crit

Normal Weapon(3% crit + 1% earring + 5%spr) = 1 out of every 11 attacks crit
Advance Weapon(5% crit + 1% earring + 5%spr) = 1 out of every 9 attacks crit
Specialty Weapon(9% crit + 1% earring + 5%spr) = 1 out of every 7 attacks crit

Just a generalization of how small percentage points do make a difference.

**Hessah** · 10-17-2007, 04:44 AM

1 crit every 9 attacks is pretty often!
looking at adv weapon would all the crit bundle

Kiedo · 10-17-2007, 05:12 AM

Green Xbow = 8%
Conqueror Title = 5%
75 SPR Points (lvl 60) = 10%
Crit Earrings = 1%
Crit Costume = 25%

49% Crit by level 60.

**ThievingSix** · 10-17-2007, 05:13 AM

Plus the 25 spr you get adds enough SP for 75 magic missles...Same concept applies to M.Def any little bit counts.

25 SPR BUILD IS NOT OVER RATED!

^.^

Originally Posted by Kiedo

Green Xbow = 8%
Conqueror Title = 5%
75 SPR Points (lvl 60) = 10%
Crit Earrings = 1%
Crit Costume = 25%

49% Crit by level 60.

----^ Win.