Deity Existence

[Hraesvelg]

Reminds me of my vists to Mdm. Tussuds.

[Jikanu]

Im sorry, but im not informed on what those things are... explain, please?

[Hraesvelg]

Wax figures.

http://www.madametussauds.com/

[Jikanu]

Ah, i see.

But these are real bodies, so i see no connection...

[Hraesvelg]

And you know this because the same people that are perpetuating the miracle idea tell it to you?

[Jikanu]

Acctually, i've read that they haven't officially declared it a miracle or spoken out on it... im not quite sure though, im still trying to find some information on it.

EDIT: apparently a FEW have a bit of wax on them, because of a bit of decay, but most have none. If they were out to fool us all, would they not say that NONE were wax, and cover it up?

[Vasu]

You have a point Jik, (about Christianity being up to something) because almost every rumour has a grain of truth. However, I don't really know how to argue with you at this point. When I presented the absolute omnipotence point, I showed that it was impossible. You don't really have to be an expert to see an impossibility when it stares at you in the face, and yet you dodge the point by saying maybe a knowledgeable priest can answer it. I think you need to get some answers before jumping into a faith.

[Jikanu]

you've brought up several of those kinds of points... are you addressing the point about the compatability between absolute omnipotence and omnicience, or the "if he was omnipotent and omnicient he would make us do the right thing" point? or perhaps another one?

[Senyx The Soulless one]

"If a voice in your head told you to change the world, What would everyone ELSE say?"

That guy's crazy.

"If a group of people told you to drink the kool-aid, Would you?"

No

"If a mysterious being that you could neither prove nor disprove the existence of told you to live your life in the most boring fashion and make you do all these good things, Would you?"

Would you?

I find that the world is not half and half with christianity. Rather, christians are a dying breed, succumbing to the day to day temptations we have born out of out corrupted heads.
So let me ask you people jus this once.

Would you?
Fall out into the sky, trusting that there's water below? Jump forward, thinking there's enough space to land, without falling. It's called faith, and we've all had some hand in it's destruction.

That's just my two cents.

[Jikanu]

hm... so are you saying that we've all had a part in the destruction of faith, and morals? or something im not grasping?