Legals and Humans Game Mechanics Discussion - Page 4

**Blaaaaaaaah** · 01-25-2010, 11:57 PM

While I was editing I read through the roles and wanted clarification on these...

Healer Julia

"She may choose to save someone and give someone a potion." - Do you mean she can save and give the potion to the same person at the same time? And if the legal kills them, then the "save" gets used first, so the person still has the potion?

Robin

You didn't list this under changed roles, but you listed that Robin can only investigate 3 times. Is this new? Cos I don't think it's in the game before. Also need to clarify whether they investigate during the day or night.

Night roles

For roles with action during the night like Shutian etc... in the description, you said to send who they wanna investigate along with the vote during the day. Can we just make them send it during the night, if the action is to be taken place during the night? It makes it less confusing for Teva. Unless they can carry out the action during day OR night.

**Hessah** · 01-26-2010, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by Lirange

Robo's block last for 24 hours.
Also, more roles won't give legals more power, just more diversity. Currently if you decide you want a legal to have a role, they can only have robo. Also, the updated robo cannot block a person twice in a row.

it'll have to be 48 hrs if u want it to run into the day...

I guess that could work.. it may be confusing when Robin wants to investigate and get killed on the same night... then Teva will run into another dilemma...

I guess the block going into the next day could work...

**Blaaaaaaaah** · 01-26-2010, 12:08 AM

Wait ok I think we should list under the description WHEN the roles need to PM Teva to do use their special ability. Cos I get confused. I think any special investigation abilities should be used during the day, so they don't get killed and investigate on the same night. It's confusing. @_@ Plus, that way, Teva won't need to wait and see who the Legals kill before responding Robin with an answer.

So anyone who has night action should PM at night, and anyone with day action should PM during the day.

Healer Julia
Sends PM during night to say who she wants to save.
Sends PM day OR night to pass potion.

Robin
Sends PM during the day to investigate. Gets reply straight away.

ST
Sends PM during the night to kill.

Robo
Sends PM during the night to block, which goes over to the next day.

Shutian
Sends PM during the night to protect.

Myzen
Sends PM during the day to investigate.

like that.

**Lirange** · 01-26-2010, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah

While I was editing I read through the roles and wanted clarification on these...

Healer Julia

"She may choose to save someone and give someone a potion." - Do you mean she can save and give the potion to the same person at the same time? And if the legal kills them, then the "save" gets used first, so the person still has the potion?

Eh, yes. I wasn't too sure what exactly to do. With that a person may be able to avoid 3 deaths in a row. Do you think potion cannot be given to someone who is being saved by healer julia? Or healer julia cannot save the person who has the potion?

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Robin

You didn't list this under changed roles, but you listed that Robin can only investigate 3 times. Is this new? Cos I don't think it's in the game before. Also need to clarify whether they investigate during the day or night.

I believe this was always the case. And I said along with the vote robin may choose who to investigate. Though I don't mind if it becomes a night time action as it wont change much.

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Night roles

For roles with action during the night like Shutian etc... in the description, you said to send who they wanna investigate along with the vote during the day. Can we just make them send it during the night, if the action is to be taken place during the night? It makes it less confusing for Teva. Unless they can carry out the action during day OR night.

Sure

Originally Posted by Hessah

it'll have to be 48 hrs if u want it to run into the day...

I guess that could work.. it may be confusing when Robin wants to investigate and get killed on the same night... then Teva will run into another dilemma...

I guess the block going into the next day could work...

eh yeah, I ent a full day in the game

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah

Wait ok I think we should list under the description WHEN the roles need to PM Teva to do use their special ability. Cos I get confused. I think any special investigation abilities should be used during the day, so they don't get killed and investigate on the same night. It's confusing. @_@ Plus, that way, Teva won't need to wait and see who the Legals kill before responding Robin with an answer.

So anyone who has night action should PM at night, and anyone with day action should PM during the day.

Healer Julia
Sends PM during night to say who she wants to save.
Sends PM day OR night to pass potion.

Robin
Sends PM during the day to investigate. Gets reply straight away.

ST
Sends PM during the night to kill.

Robo
Sends PM during the night to block, which goes over to the next day.

Shutian
Sends PM during the night to protect.

Myzen
Sends PM during the day to investigate.

like that.

That's good, feel free to add that.

**Blaaaaaaaah** · 01-26-2010, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by Lirange

Eh, yes. I wasn't too sure what exactly to do. With that a person may be able to avoid 3 deaths in a row. Do you think potion cannot be given to someone who is being saved by healer julia? Or healer julia cannot save the person who has the potion?

Hm but what if the potion gets passed onto another person and Healer Julia doesn't know and tries to save the new person? @_@"

And cool I'll add

Edit: And I never knew Robin could only investigate 3 times. I thought only Myzen had that limit in the previous rounds.

Btw since myzen investigates during the night, it doesn't always necessarily mean they catch a legal right? They could have caught Julia or Shutian too but they wouldn't know if they caught a good or bad role?

**Lirange** · 01-26-2010, 12:47 AM

I said in the post that healer julia must pm teva to pass the potion and if the person in procession of the potion wants to pass it on they must also pm teva. This is so teva knows who always has the potion.

I looked back and I guess robin doesn't have a limitation. I thought he didxD

Correct about myzen

and OMG. I was looking back at the old threads to see about the robin thing and am I the only one who forgot about mind drain? Do you guys think it should be in the game now? I need to add it to the legals description then. I think there had to be 1 legal left and like 6+humans left to do it.

**Blaaaaaaaah** · 01-26-2010, 12:50 AM

One more thing.. You know how Myzen can request Teva to broadcast?

Is there a limit to how many times Teva can broadcast, since Myzen has unlimited investigation abilities (just so she can't be toooo powerful)? And does Myzen only have one chance to tell Teva to broadcast a person they investigate?

Say they investigate Player 1 on Night 2, they can only request Teva to broadcast right after they investigate, and can't ask Teva to broadcast the result 3 nights later?

Do they actually ask Teva to broadcast before investigate (i.e. they PM person they want to investigate and request at the same time before knowing results) or do they ask Teva to broadcast after they know the result?

**Blaaaaaaaah** · 01-26-2010, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Lirange

I said in the post that healer julia must pm teva to pass the potion and if the person in procession of the potion wants to pass it on they must also pm teva. This is so teva knows who always has the potion.

I looked back and I guess robin doesn't have a limitation. I thought he didxD

Correct about myzen

and OMG. I was looking back at the old threads to see about the robin thing and am I the only one who forgot about mind drain? Do you guys think it should be in the game now? I need to add it to the legals description then. I think there had to be 1 legal left and like 6+humans left to do it.

Didn't forget about mind drain but that sounds good to me with the new limit.

Teva would know but then Julia wouldn't know. So if Julia wants to save the person with the new potion, then that means Teva would need to tell Julia that the new person has the potion. Not sure if Julia is supposed to know that?

Edit: So does Robin still have limitation from now on or not?

**Lirange** · 01-26-2010, 01:02 AM

Grandma Myzen can broadcast as many times as she wants but it can only be right after the investigation and the broadcast takes place during the day or night just as long as the next investigation hasn't taken place yet. Grandma Myzen can choose to tell teva to just go ahead and broadcast the info or if grandma myzen wants to know before it's broadcasted. A smart myzen probably wouldn't just broadcast every info out there.

yes robin has no limitations.

As for healer julia, good point. Didn't think about that. Yeah, I think she'll have to know who has the potion at all times also.

**Blaaaaaaaah** · 01-26-2010, 01:05 AM

Okie dokes I'm gonna put a lil note about it so I remember next time.. hahahaa. So an investigation can be broadcasted as long as the next hasn't taken place yet. And if a new investigation was already done, then myzen can't go back and ask teva to announce the older investigations.