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Old 11-05-2008, 04:05 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by Triumph View Post
Indeed.

Now we have someone who knows literally nothing about the military as the head of the military. Reduction of weaponry? Good one. In the age where weapons become ever more sophisticated, we will have a secondhand weapon system to defend us. I will admit that he has some good changes in mind, but one key McCain ad still rings true:

Barack Obama has little experience.

It's a fact, don't even bother to decry it. And no, I am not a McCain supporter.
Well. The people will have to suffer with their choice, now.
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Old 11-05-2008, 05:19 AM   #32
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I don't like what this country's about to become, but it can't be changed unless everyone (vast majority?) has an epiphany and McCain somehow wins.
And what would that be...

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Now we have someone who knows literally nothing about the military as the head of the military. Reduction of weaponry? Good one. In the age where weapons become ever more sophisticated, we will have a secondhand weapon system to defend us. I will admit that he has some good changes in mind, but one key McCain ad still rings true:
The President may be the Commander in Chief, but really. When was the last time the President was actually the Commander in Chief...? Washington? Jackson? No president governs alone.
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:20 PM   #33
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I don't like what this country has become :P
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:24 PM   #34
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And what would that be...



The President may be the Commander in Chief, but really. When was the last time the President was actually the Commander in Chief...? Washington? Jackson? No president governs alone.
The Commander in Chief does not necessarily have to listen to his advisers.

Therein lies the fear. The possibility remains that he may not like what his advisers say, and proceed with some unknown agenda that may cause devastating military strategic losses.

The equivalent is like handing a non-gamer a game like Command and Conquer/StarCraft, and asking he or she to conserve the most resources, eliminate the opposition, all the while trying to minimize the loss of life.

Whereas the examples I draw upon are imprecise, they nevertheless are sufficient enough to explain what I fear.

It is also duly noted that Obama proposes quite a bit of "change," including reduction of taxes. Therefore, I have but one question: Where will that money come from? Funding will still have to come from somewhere.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:35 PM   #35
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If you have a pro sitting along side with the non-gamer, teaching him how to play the game.. as long as the non-gamer is smart and is willing to accept help... He may turn out to be a decent gamer...

Yeah we've had tax cuts too... so we're richer, so we spend more and pay tax on our expenses.... on a very simplified version of things


and i'm sure Obama's advisers would be better than that lady who's suppose to be advisor for McCain? LOL!!
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As opposed to the wonderful job of the commander in chief we've had the past eight years or so? The policies of which John McCain supported? Yeah, we would be much better off with a hawk in office.
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Originally Posted by Triumph View Post
Therein lies the fear. The possibility remains that he may not like what his advisers say, and proceed with some unknown agenda that may cause devastating military strategic losses.
That's what we've had the last eight years. And I don't even necessarily mean militarily.

Scientifically, the Bush administration has outrageously suppressed information. Don't agree with the policy? Fine. But at least let the evidence stand for itself.

And let's not forget his Karl Rove and the firing of U.S. Attorneys that the administration didn't like.
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Originally Posted by Carmasa View Post
McCain is on cocaine.
Obama's an Obamination.
Aw, well you could have voted McKinney if you were 18. Woot, yay Green Party. Pro-Earth. Let's save the planet. Yay~ -forms a drum circle-

Originally Posted by Carmasa View Post
Our votes are just numbers and are (supposedly) in the Electoral voters' best interest.

Take us away, and it's all up to them.

I don't like what this country's about to become, but it can't be changed unless everyone (vast majority?) has an epiphany and McCain somehow wins.

If only. - -
Seriously? And yet you seem upset about 8 passing? Are you aware of how anti-gay marriage McCain is?

And yes, the Electoral College is crap.
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To be honest, both candidates explicitly stated that they opposed gay marriage.
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