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Old 09-03-2008, 06:52 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by Triumph View Post

I would get flamed by the Outspark Self-Appointed Forum Gestapo if I posted there. So I rant and rave here.
Chicken~ You're afraid now that you've seen how they roasted me?

You're right Yosei, in that the regular player could care less about what's going on in the company. So long as it doesn't affect them directly, that is. A lot of things like company ethics and management are established with the company from the very start. If they don't get these things straight right from the beginning, there is little hope of any U-turns later. Now I'd say that sloppy responses to customer feedback will ultimately affect gameplay. As Triumph pointed out, updates and problem rectification are suffering severe delays most likely "due to earlier signal failure" (lol that's like the London Underground - I can see quite a few things in parallel). If this kind of things hasn't changed a bit since CB, then one must question the possible causes.

Absolutely, the company is only at its infancy. But should you really treat it like an infant? Their press releases shapes it as an ambitious company. It's only fair to demand from it what it can be, as opposed to being complacent about its status as a budding company.

The funding Outspark received seems to be an appreciable amount. It doesn't seem to me that they're fully utilising it though. Anyone interested in doing some Math with me?

Originally Posted by Yosei View Post
Of course, a lot of the time on the forums, the members can get a little too defending of Outspark, and start squawking at the person trying to make a point, except for people who post like the above, they kind of have it coming. Then a flame war breaks out, then the thread is closed.
Just... squawking? Some get jumped on 9 ways.
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Chicken~ You're afraid now that you've seen how they roasted me?
Yah right. That certain level 67 mage from Apoline keeps trying to -rep me, but now his little boxes are gray.

I use a drab tone on the official forums. You use too much cynicism, you weren't just roasted, you were burned extensively.

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Just... squawking? Some get jumped on 9 ways.
Like yourself, nub. Now, play CS.
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Old 09-03-2008, 09:23 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by Triumph View Post
Yah right. That certain level 67 mage from Apoline keeps trying to -rep me, but now his little boxes are gray.

I use a drab tone on the official forums. You use too much cynicism, you weren't just roasted, you were burned extensively.



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Originally Posted by Icy View Post
Chicken~ You're afraid now that you've seen how they roasted me?
BUahahahaha! Links me plz.

Originally Posted by Triumph View Post
Yah right. That certain level 67 mage from Apoline keeps trying to -rep me, but now his little boxes are gray.
:O

Who?


Oh.

Wait.

Figured it out.

I think.

That didn't take long. ._>
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BUahahahaha! Links me plz.



:O

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Oh.

Wait.

Figured it out.

I think.

That didn't take long. ._>
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Old 09-03-2008, 09:48 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by Triumph View Post
Yah right. That certain level 67 mage from Apoline keeps trying to -rep me, but now his little boxes are gray.
Lol. You couldn't shake him off? Wow, persistent.
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Chicken~ You're afraid now that you've seen how they roasted me?

You're right Yosei, in that the regular player could care less about what's going on in the company. So long as it doesn't affect them directly, that is. A lot of things like company ethics and management are established with the company from the very start. If they don't get these things straight right from the beginning, there is little hope of any U-turns later. Now I'd say that sloppy responses to customer feedback will ultimately affect gameplay. As Triumph pointed out, updates and problem rectification are suffering severe delays most likely "due to earlier signal failure" (lol that's like the London Underground - I can see quite a few things in parallel). If this kind of things hasn't changed a bit since CB, then one must question the possible causes.

Absolutely, the company is only at its infancy. But should you really treat it like an infant? Their press releases shapes it as an ambitious company. It's only fair to demand from it what it can be, as opposed to being complacent about its status as a budding company.

The funding Outspark received seems to be an appreciable amount. It doesn't seem to me that they're fully utilising it though. Anyone interested in doing some Math with me?



Just... squawking? Some get jumped on 9 ways.
Oh, yes, I'm ready. Now all we need are a few numbers.
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Outspark getting FUNDING =/= PROFIT

11 mil is capital... that they have to earn for their investors... they are a company set up to make money... It would make sense that the 11 mil they received are not free money... it's people giving them capital to start the company, in the hope to generate more return...

just a side that i think ppl misinterpret the money that outspark gets....
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What good is the funding if it is not invested by the recipient? No investment equals no profit, which is loss for the venture firms. And these are venture firms, not money lenders.
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It was [GM]Break, I think. Well Admin Break now, I'd assume.

Yay American complicated legalities.

The reason Outspark maintains it's "Open Beta" façade so that they have a shield to defend themselves from inadequacies. It's really a "legal" defense; by saying they are in "Open Beta," as Ralath has said, they therefore can claim in that they are still testing, despite the release of premium items. In essence, therefore, they can state that they are very sorry for the bugs, working diligently to fix them, and have Fiesta players' best interests at heart.

Which is why they take ages to fix a simple error that anyone can fix, let alone the developer team. Which is why they took months to fix the relog bug, the bugs that came with the June 9th patch, and why they squabbled fiercely with Gamigo regarding European player accounts.
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