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Old 02-15-2008, 05:02 AM   #21
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yeah.. but i guess u cant blame them for putting $$$ 1st... its jsut human nature... (or corporate nature)
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:03 AM   #22
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Lol. He said, "I'll punch you in the boob." and I was like, "I'll punch you in the bawlz and we both know that hurts more D<" and he was like, "I won't let you." and I was like, "d00d.. ur a tiny piece of sheet. u punch, i punch. mine will hurt more." and then he was like, "People are probably talking to me. g2g."
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:04 AM   #23
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:06 AM   #24
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I don't know...

it kinda just makes me feel like they're more interested in gaining new players rather than making the existing players happier.

I could be wrong... but that's how I feel =/
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Lol. He said, "I'll punch you in the boob." and I was like, "I'll punch you in the bawlz and we both know that hurts more D<" and he was like, "I won't let you." and I was like, "d00d.. ur a tiny piece of sheet. u punch, i punch. mine will hurt more." and then he was like, "People are probably talking to me. g2g."
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:18 AM   #25
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I don't know...

it kinda just makes me feel like they're more interested in gaining new players rather than making the existing players happier.

I could be wrong... but that's how I feel =/
oh nah i think they do try make exisiting players happier... or... existing CS player happier! HAHA no really...

we've now got the val day event that allows non-CS players to customise their look without TOO much effort.... they're not ALL bad~~
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:23 AM   #26
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oh nah i think they do try make exisiting players happier... or... existing CS player happier! HAHA no really...

we've now got the val day event that allows non-CS players to customise their look without TOO much effort.... they're not ALL bad~~
This was a serious shock to me...

#1 A PERM CS item

and

#2 A Beauty Shop coupon!

I was like...

eh?!

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Lol. He said, "I'll punch you in the boob." and I was like, "I'll punch you in the bawlz and we both know that hurts more D<" and he was like, "I won't let you." and I was like, "d00d.. ur a tiny piece of sheet. u punch, i punch. mine will hurt more." and then he was like, "People are probably talking to me. g2g."
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Old 02-15-2008, 01:36 PM   #27
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Here's the thing. In order for the game to stay up and running for the ones that do not/cannot buy things in the CS, they NEED us that can and will buy from the cash shop. We provide the company with money needed to run/better the game.
With that said though, I think they are trying to keep cash shop users, non-cash shop users, new and old players happy. They are just limited on what they can do, when they can do it and how they can do it.
But, yes, allowing the Beauty Shop coupon to be given as a quest reward shows that they DO care about the non-cash shop users and they are giving ALL the players a fair shot at something that a few months ago everyone was complaining about because it was only available to CS users.

No matter what they do, they will never be able to make everyone happy. But, they are making an effort, so we need to make the effort to realize it and be more patient with them.

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I do believe that if they improve gameplay (ie, fixing bugs) they will gain new players without trouble and keep the current ones.

I've sort of given up on them getting the bugs fixed versus the cash shop additions. So I'll try to somehow get them to improve 'something' by completing surveys.
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Originally Posted by booyah8876 View Post
Yesh... it was... but still...

I think a lot of people believe that Outspark is really biased towards the Cash Shop based on events like the trading of the skill scrolls being fixed in a week or less, but the 2H fighter bug waited forever.

Then Outspark gives a survey about improving the gameplay... and only asks about the Cash Shop...

It's all running around and around in circles dear. ^^
They maybe should have used a different phrase regarding the survey.

As for the 2H fighter bug -vs- the trading of the skill scrolls being fixed in a week - keep in mind that Outspark has said (if I get time I will search for where it was said) they do not have control over game-play matter whereas they do have control over cash shop matter. It seems that they can control what is in or out of CS, what prices and length of item time.

As for the survey, that goes to the same explanation as the glitch repair - what Outspark has power to change themselves rather than going back to the game devs. They need CS users to help grow the business so they need to know what we want to see in the CS.
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Yeah, they have control over the CS system completely. But as for glitches with skills and such, that is in-game system stuff that is applied with the patches. They don't make the patches, they don't make the game, so there is only so much they can do. They have to wait just like we do, they have to wait for the developers to make another patch that will fix the glitches that came with the last one.
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