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Old 09-18-2007, 01:17 PM   #21
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I absolutely hate 90% of all KQ's I enter. Why? Because I always get stuck with the most incompetent team ever. No one ever talks until its time to decide the main tanker so if I need kills for something I usually end up missing them. Which gets on my nerves. Kingdom Quest quests aren't very rewarding but i'd still like to complete them before its too late. Whats worse is when i'm stuck with people who don't bother taking the monster's aggro from me when I grab it either by accident or on purpose. I can take the aggro with my Fighter and my Cleric (sometimes) but when i'm my Mage I expect people to kill that monster I just pulled. But what ends up happening is, is I get killed because people just like to sit there and watch me running around trying to not die.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:02 PM   #22
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Haha, Teva pplz are still fun ^^
+ seems like the forums are getting owned by clerics =]
Anyways, I am selfish too, but i am polite...
As been a cleric long time i know how hard it is(and how hard it isnt.)
Well now i dont get 1 thing... Like in Kq's i work like a cleric basically. I'm used to be the main tank in mara atm :P
So i combo them both, like i take all kills on myself n rush.(n lots of times i go back to help others rush too by taking aggros on me) BUT some people just rest or stand in some spot for no reason n w8 for me to kill all the mobs.
And while it i have to YELL to get healed n to make people move.
It's fucking annoying because it happens 50% of the time -.-

*And another thing is that some people suicide n then scream that we all are gonna fail because he doesnt get healed...it's mostly some cleric btw. So now that's kinda weird*
+ Yeah all clerics wanna battle at start but it ruins lots of kq's too -.-
And lol mages keep left behind n then scream WAIT !

edit: Btw i am polite because i say THANKS, PLEASE n such things all the time. And it all because i played cleric n waited for it whole my life.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:17 AM   #23
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I noticed I'm not very good at clericing. Or maybe it was because the other clerics didn't do anything and there was some noob archer running around and pulling all the slimes to him, which he couldn't handle.

So yeah, just give me one of the other classes to play. It's hard to keep everyone healed in a KQ, not to mention it costs a helluvalot pots to keep your MP up.
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Old 09-19-2007, 12:53 PM   #24
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Ya, for me it is 5 seconds to cast and a 25 second cool down. During that time I'm healing the person that I revived so the won't die again. It takes a lot of SP and the most someone can get in is 2 revives a minute. What do you do when all of your party members die? It is near impossible to revive them all. It takes consentration and luck. Not to mention a lot of SP pots and stones.
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:19 PM   #25
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ohh that reminds me... it frustrate me that low lvl fighters go off and "tank" some of the mobs in KQ... they die sooo quickly (like 70% of his live with 1 hit) and he expects to be healed quickly and constantly...

i had to say to him "if you cant tank then don't aggro them" he's not the only one in the party and i need time to heal others.... they think they're 100% safe if there's a cleric around... and shouts at us when they die... they gotta realise they're responsible for looking after their own lives too... we're only there to help them.. our job isnt to heal them (we just happen to hv the ability to...) if need be, we can fight too!
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:33 PM   #26
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That is where we differ my friend. I believe that as clerics our primary job is to heal every player, regardless if they are in our party or not. Then our second job is to attack monsters when needed (most of the time). Also we are supposed to attack the monsters that are killing the mages and archers and try to take argo for that monster so we can heal the mages and archers there. Then a fighter (hopefuly) takes argo so we can continue healing.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:18 PM   #27
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OMG! how could we be expected to do so much when we already hv neough trouble healing our own party members?? unless they're fighting bosses... i dun think we're responsible for healing other party members... (and when someone else is tanking mara... my own party member should not be expected to be healed.. maybe unless there's 3 or more clerics around)

that's just asking for too much.... its not just the matter of spamming 333333333 but we hv to click on the appropriate person etc... sure... i must say i CAN do all of the above if i tried... but why do clerics hv to do all the work.. healing everyone ELSE too...just coz theortically we have the ability to??
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Well, I hate to see this thread because I was hoping it was only me catching crap from everyone in KQ who expected me to keep them all alive, and all at the same time.

I finally got tired of one tank running off at the mouth about the "blankety blank" clerics letting her die and costing her the HP buff she had and finally shouted back telling her that with cool down and with the time rez takes to cast (cuz if you try to rez and quickly go to heal another then the rez stops and you have to start over (this parenthesis part wasn't in my shout back at her)) that there is no way to keep everyone alive at once and surely they has sense enough to bring some stones and potions in with them and to try using them.

She didn't stop griping about the whole group sucking but she did stop going on and on about the clerics.

As for the earlier comment about the “clerics our primary job is to heal every player”, I have to differ in opinion with you on that one. First because as Hessah stated “unless they're fighting bosses... i dun think we're responsible for healing other party members”. You can’t click every character in the KQ to status them while your own party dies. Second, I personally have tried running KQ’s doing nothing but pure heal and got to the end for an empty chest reward and not all my quest components complete. What was my benefit in running that KQ? I used tons of SP and get nothing while others are patting each other on the back for getting +5 or +6 weapons, lucky elrues and jewelry. I’m sorry, I am in this game to better my character also and to that end when I am down by a ratman and a warrior boar, you can bet your sweet cheeks I will be wailing on a ratman or warrior boar and if opportunity permits I will heal the fool who showed up with no stones or potions, but priority one is MY quest status, thank you very much!

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Old 09-20-2007, 01:18 AM   #29
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I saw the most annoying mage in a KQ the other day. He was like... Fiesta's Leroy Jenkins. He'd take charge and try to tank stuff, and expect all of the healers to keep him healed. But we already had a main tank established, and he'd keep spaming "LATE HEAL FTL!!!!!!!" "HEALERS FTL!!!!!!!" I eventually told him to shut up and do his job as a damage dealer. Then while we were all resting before pulling the last Marlone, he ran off and pulled him. Fortunately he died.

I feel sorry for clerics lol... people expect so much from them. *hugs my healer friends*
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Originally Posted by Karasu_Sabre View Post
That is where we differ my friend. I believe that as clerics our primary job is to heal every player, regardless if they are in our party or not. Then our second job is to attack monsters when needed (most of the time). Also we are supposed to attack the monsters that are killing the mages and archers and try to take argo for that monster so we can heal the mages and archers there. Then a fighter (hopefuly) takes argo so we can continue healing.
True, but I personally would get frustrated if people who can't tank goes to tank and starts screaming for heal at clerics. I believe we could heal every player if we want to, but I am not about to go and heal people who go running off in their mind, thinking they have a personal cleric in the background, ready to heal them all the time. If we take Hessah's scenario, and the guy still goes tanking after people tell him to hang back, then he shall die. They have to learn it the hard way. Kingdom quests are all about cooperating with each other, and if one thinks otherwise, they do no deserve our help or whatsoever. D:

Still, I rarely go and heal every in the party since there's usually more than one cleric around. Each party usually has a cleric anyway, so each cleric are responsible for their own party members.
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